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Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby PVF1799 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:00 pm

While browsing TM Tractor last night, preparing the order of the century for my '48, when I noticed this part. http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/827fp.htm. The placement of these brackets happens to perfectly coincide with two holes that have been in the hood for a long, long time. Never had a clue something was supposed to be there.

Ah, the things you learn restoring a CUB.

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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby Bus Driver » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:24 pm

Those should be replaced before painting the hood. The weld area may require some work to make it smooth.
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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby PVF1799 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:31 pm

On furhter inspection and because I can't recall these ever being there, I have no clue what they attach to on reassembly. :help: please.

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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby Denny Clayton » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:34 pm

PVF1799 wrote:On furhter inspection and because I can't recall these ever being there, I have no clue what they attach to on reassembly. :help: please.

To the top of the radiator support brackets.
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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby Cecil » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:35 pm

Ken they attach to the radiator supports. The best way to locate them is to attach them to the support, position the hood in the right place, tack the brackets, remove the hood and finish welding. If needed bring the hood here and I'll give you a hand.

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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby PVF1799 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:51 pm

Cecil wrote:Ken they attach to the radiator supports. The best way to locate them is to attach them to the support, position the hood in the right place, tack the brackets, remove the hood and finish welding. If needed bring the hood here and I'll give you a hand.


Cecil, thanks so much - I'll take you up on that offer. BTW - the Cub won't be ready for August as you knew in April. Now it's weddings, graduation parties, trying to put hay in, etc, etc. Be lucky if it's October at the current rate....

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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby ad356 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:56 pm

those brackets act as "stand-off's". the keep the hood up and off the radiator preventing the hood from resting on the radiator and damaging the radiator. they are kind of important unless you want to replace the radiator.

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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby PVF1799 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:39 pm

ad356 wrote:those brackets act as "stand-off's". the keep the hood up and off the radiator preventing the hood from resting on the radiator and damaging the radiator. they are kind of important unless you want to replace the radiator.


Thanks for that input and sometime after I got married in 1977, these brackets must have rusted off. Dad - would never have known they were there - so he placed a heavy piece of canvas on the radiator, which stayed there till I started this restoration in March.

They will be replaced and the canvas stored for historical memories. :D

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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby Boss Hog » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:51 pm

The radiator brackets will go on backwards too !
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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby PVF1799 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:46 pm

Boss Hog wrote:The radiator brackets will go on backwards too !


OK Boss - you got me - So now I need to ask - how does one distinguish 351 477 R91 LH from 351 478 R91 RH? Does the threaded nut on the top of the bracket go towards the front or the rear?

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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby Barnyard » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:06 pm

Ken, it goes in front.
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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby PVF1799 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:34 am

Barnyard wrote:Ken, it goes in front.


A little searching now that I am assembling and I clearly needed this thread now. Not sure why I was worried about it way back then :thanx:

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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby Rob in NH » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:07 am

ken, you might be able to use a metal to metal adhesive rather than weld them and ruin the paint.
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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby PVF1799 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:46 am

Rob in NH wrote:ken, you might be able to use a metal to metal adhesive rather than weld them and ruin the paint.


Rob - my post was about which way to put on the radiator brackets (LH/RH so the bolt holes were in the right place). The hood was welded at the NE Mini CubFest in April - Long before painting. :D :D :D

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Re: Holes in Hood Revelation

Postby smallfarm » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:58 pm

Gosh! My cub had and still has a hunk of rubber hose on top of those brackets and no "receiver" on the hood. It was that way when I got it and had been run for at least 20 years before that without the factory set up. Am I flirting with trouble or should I take the hood off again and try to fix it right?

I'm nor lazy (honest), but I've learned the hard way that if "it ain't broke, don't fix it". In other words I've broken more stuff than I'd care to admit trying to make something RIGHT rather than working. That has tempered my enthusiasm for some "unnecessary" repairs.
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