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- SONNY
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cub and sickle mower
After LOTS of tank/carb cleaning, AND smelling 10 year old bad gas,---IT RUNS!! LOL!!!!---sounds like a good strong engine,--- excellent oil pressure and rad. has anti-freeze in it! has alt. and 12 volt stuck under the hood and a bunch of wires coming from the alt. heading all directions! I used it a little to test the mower and it has mowed many hundreds of acres!---got a little repair welded on it but has new drive belt too! Thanks; sonny
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Re: cub and sickle mower
Cool! Did you try the sickle? I put my sickle on yesterday and gave her try. Not sure if I have it adjusted right or not... I will have to read some more in the manual.
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Re: cub and sickle mower
the drag bar is in the wrong side of the bolster
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Re: cub and sickle mower
Hi,
The Cub 22 mower rod originally went in the left side of the square hole, not the right side. My friend said he had a Cub and mower that the rod was in the right side of the hole, and the inner end of the bar would not stay on the ground when he was mowing, it would rise up off the ground. I don't know if yours does that or not. It's the geometry of the mower is wrong when the rod is too short, or in the right side of the hole. It looks like the rod length has been changed too, shorter than original, you would have to lengthen it to make it original length again. Here's pics of the original way.
Also the lift chain is set too short, the touch control arm should be fully up when the mower is at the height it is in your pic. It probably doesn't go down enough when you're mowing, and have loose chain when it's on the ground, or needs to go lower than the tractor wheels, on rough ground. Let the chain looser 1 or 2 links, and see if it is at the right height.
The Cub 22 mower rod originally went in the left side of the square hole, not the right side. My friend said he had a Cub and mower that the rod was in the right side of the hole, and the inner end of the bar would not stay on the ground when he was mowing, it would rise up off the ground. I don't know if yours does that or not. It's the geometry of the mower is wrong when the rod is too short, or in the right side of the hole. It looks like the rod length has been changed too, shorter than original, you would have to lengthen it to make it original length again. Here's pics of the original way.
Also the lift chain is set too short, the touch control arm should be fully up when the mower is at the height it is in your pic. It probably doesn't go down enough when you're mowing, and have loose chain when it's on the ground, or needs to go lower than the tractor wheels, on rough ground. Let the chain looser 1 or 2 links, and see if it is at the right height.
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- SONNY
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Re: cub and sickle mower
I does cut but needs to be mounted the right way !! ---would probably work lots better too if geometry was corrected ! Thanks ;sonny
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Re: cub and sickle mower
Nice post Glen....When and if I ever put my sickle on again I'll pay more attention to detail.....Thanks Dave
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Re: cub and sickle mower
What is the correct length of the drag bar?
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Re: cub and sickle mower
Yep, that is why my sickle seemed to be wrong to me for several reasons. Now, I will change that over later this week or next. After I rebuild my touch control.
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Re: cub and sickle mower
Hi,
Glad you like the info. Sonny, it looks like your front loop is still original, so just the rear portion of it needs changing. I measured the length of the rod. I hope you can follow the way I measured this, because I can't measure through the 2 holes with it assembled like it is, unless I had a tape with no end on it. Anyway, from the front, at the edge of the metal that comes down from the square hole, the narrow edge of the piece in my pic, that's just after the loop at the front, along the rod to the very rear of it looking down through the hole on the mower, is 32 3/8 inches. This has to be pretty precise so it will adjust right, and the bar is 90 degrees out from the tractor, actually the IH manual says to have just a slight lead at the outer end of the bar when it's down and mowing.
Putting the mower on the Cub with the rod the original way is not hard when you know how. I put everything on the tractor except the front rod, and the pitman. It's easier with 2 people too. You need the lift chain in place too. Lift the mower up off the ground slightly, the other person should hold the outer end of the bar, so it doesn't swing around on it's own. Then put the rear of the rod up through the hole in the mower, and lay it down in place, then you have to move the outer end of the mower bar one way, while you put the end of the square shaft in the square hole, then move the bar the direction so the square shaft goes into the hole, It's not as hard as it sounds. Tighten the bolt at the square hole. Then put the pitman on. I put it on last because it doesn't bend much. Then check the alignment, the bar should be 90 degrees out from the tractor. Pull back on the outer end of the bar and look down the bar to the pitman, I like mine so the metal the pitman bearing is on is straight, not bent forward or back between the bearing and the wood. That's where it will be running when you are mowing. Adjust the position by moving the square shaft in or out of the hole. Check the bolt there some too, mine gets loose after some use. You don't want the piece falling out, you will bend the rod probably. We've had this same Cub and mower for 41 years. I just worked on the bar again this year, replacing some parts, so it cuts better.
Glad you like the info. Sonny, it looks like your front loop is still original, so just the rear portion of it needs changing. I measured the length of the rod. I hope you can follow the way I measured this, because I can't measure through the 2 holes with it assembled like it is, unless I had a tape with no end on it. Anyway, from the front, at the edge of the metal that comes down from the square hole, the narrow edge of the piece in my pic, that's just after the loop at the front, along the rod to the very rear of it looking down through the hole on the mower, is 32 3/8 inches. This has to be pretty precise so it will adjust right, and the bar is 90 degrees out from the tractor, actually the IH manual says to have just a slight lead at the outer end of the bar when it's down and mowing.
Putting the mower on the Cub with the rod the original way is not hard when you know how. I put everything on the tractor except the front rod, and the pitman. It's easier with 2 people too. You need the lift chain in place too. Lift the mower up off the ground slightly, the other person should hold the outer end of the bar, so it doesn't swing around on it's own. Then put the rear of the rod up through the hole in the mower, and lay it down in place, then you have to move the outer end of the mower bar one way, while you put the end of the square shaft in the square hole, then move the bar the direction so the square shaft goes into the hole, It's not as hard as it sounds. Tighten the bolt at the square hole. Then put the pitman on. I put it on last because it doesn't bend much. Then check the alignment, the bar should be 90 degrees out from the tractor. Pull back on the outer end of the bar and look down the bar to the pitman, I like mine so the metal the pitman bearing is on is straight, not bent forward or back between the bearing and the wood. That's where it will be running when you are mowing. Adjust the position by moving the square shaft in or out of the hole. Check the bolt there some too, mine gets loose after some use. You don't want the piece falling out, you will bend the rod probably. We've had this same Cub and mower for 41 years. I just worked on the bar again this year, replacing some parts, so it cuts better.
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