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Hello from illinois
- Adajen
- 5+ Years
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- Zip Code: 61834
Hello from illinois
hello all, Iv been reading and learning a lot throughout this site. Lots of great info here. My son (9 months old) was given a 48 cub by a good friend of ours. Needless to set it’s his first cub haha. I hope to make it a project for me and him as he grows. The tractor was restored many years ago and then left under a rainy wood roof. The tractor overall seems sound and in good condition. Tires are dry rotted to the point of complete failure and the engine is froze up. I’ve removed the plugs and been soaking in KROL oil for the last week. Still not moving. From what I can tell it’s #3 cylinder that acts different than others. I can actually fill it to top with krol . Anyways. Once she’s free she will be moved into the shop and hopefully be many years of enjoyment for the both of us ahead.
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- Tractors Owned: 49 Farmall Cub
1959 Farmall Cub
2005 Massey Ferguson 1528 - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: AL, Stapleton
Re: Hello from illinois
Welcome to the forum. You should post pictures of your Tractor AND your son.
It might help free the engine if you also remove the valve cover and spray Kroil on the valves.
It might help free the engine if you also remove the valve cover and spray Kroil on the valves.
- Adajen
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- Zip Code: 61834
Re: Hello from illinois
Thanks for the info. I’ll try to get some pictures uploaded soon.
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- Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: AL (Southwest)
Re: Hello from illinois
Welcome to the FORUM. Could be #3 is on the compression stroke with both valves closed. That would allow the cylinder to hold the KROIL without leaking down through the valves. You'll probably at minimum have to remove the head so now's a good time to start soaking down all the fasteners. You can also remove the starter and use a prybar to try to move the crankshaft a bit. Patience is your greatest asset right now. It can be freed up but there's no substitute for the patience. You can find some tips on the HOW TO subforum and access the manuals at the Quick links tab, top left corner of this page. Good luck and keep posting on your cub. Try to visit a CUBFEST if possible. There's a lot of information and tips to be learned there.
Stan in LA (lower AL)
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USAF & Reserves, Reg ARMY, ARMY NG (AL)
- Mike in Louisiana
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Re: Hello from illinois
Welcome to the forum.
1975 cub (LouAnn) serial # 245946, 1941 John Deere Model H
Good judgment comes from experience,
and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. Will Rogers
Good judgment comes from experience,
and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. Will Rogers
- Stanton
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- Zip Code: 64070
- Tractors Owned: 1942 Farmall AV, serial #87025
1947 Farmall Circle Cub, serial #2116
1948 Farmall Cub, serial #46066 - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Lone Jack, MO
Re: Hello from illinois
Welcome to the forum!
As Stan mentioned, now that you have more than 2 posts, you can access all the manuals on the server. As a new owner of a Cub, we'd suggest downloading the Owner's Manual first and taking some time to read it. Many questions you may have will be answered there. Then, as far as working on your Cub, there are Service Manuals and other information that will be helpful.
We'd also encourage you to read:
Use the "Search" box in the upper right of the screen. It will locate answers to many of your questions.
I'd also suggest putting the tractor in 3rd gear and gently rocking it back and forth. Just a little every day or time you're out there re-filling the Kroil in the engine. When it comes time to remove the head bolts, don't be like me and muscle them off--I ended up breaking some off, which isn't fun. Many on here have used an impact wrench with success.
Here's a good thread in the How To Forum for new-to-you Cub owners: What to do with a Cub you just brought home
Glad to have you here. Attach a picture of your Cub. We'd like to see it.
As Stan mentioned, now that you have more than 2 posts, you can access all the manuals on the server. As a new owner of a Cub, we'd suggest downloading the Owner's Manual first and taking some time to read it. Many questions you may have will be answered there. Then, as far as working on your Cub, there are Service Manuals and other information that will be helpful.
We'd also encourage you to read:
Use the "Search" box in the upper right of the screen. It will locate answers to many of your questions.
I'd also suggest putting the tractor in 3rd gear and gently rocking it back and forth. Just a little every day or time you're out there re-filling the Kroil in the engine. When it comes time to remove the head bolts, don't be like me and muscle them off--I ended up breaking some off, which isn't fun. Many on here have used an impact wrench with success.
Here's a good thread in the How To Forum for new-to-you Cub owners: What to do with a Cub you just brought home
Glad to have you here. Attach a picture of your Cub. We'd like to see it.
- Adajen
- 5+ Years
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Re: Hello from illinois
heres a picture of the cub. Took a few pictures but took a while to figure out how to compress them enough for an attachment . I'll get some more on later. Still been keeping it sprayed down. I removed the valve cover and sprayed it all down as well and replaced the cover.
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- Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: AL (Southwest)
Re: Hello from illinois
If you have not removed the hood/fuel tank yet, you probably need to soak all the fasteners with penetrant oil. The lower dogleg screws are very small and easily broken so that means drilling and tapping. Front hood bolts are 5/16 and are located behind the upper side of the doglegs. They screw into the radiator supports.
Stan in LA (lower AL)
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Re: Hello from illinois
Sounds like a great time to start a restoration thread that can be added to over the time you and your son do the restoration.
Kids growing up with a wrench in hand is a great start!
Kids growing up with a wrench in hand is a great start!
184 w/ Creeper & 3-Point
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller
IH-54 Blade
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller
IH-54 Blade
- John *.?-!.* cub owner
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Re: Hello from illinois
Do you actually live in Illinois, or just slip over the line to get your mail? Welcome to the forum.!!
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you are part of the problem!!!
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Re: Hello from illinois
You might want to Visit Cubarama in Fredericktown Missouri in September. Many of us will be there and you can pick some brains for restore help or ideas. It is about four and a half hours from you. Many of us stay at traditions Inn in Farmington. My wife and I plan to camp this year.
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- Adajen
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Re: Hello from illinois
Actually live in Illinois. Probably a 30 min walk to the border though haha. Well today I decided to dig a little deeper to see if my snake oil plan would ever work to hear it fire before it got pulled into shop. I'll let the pictures do the talking. Let me know what you think.
As far as trip to Cubarama, we will have to wait and see. He's not a big fan of road trips.
As far as trip to Cubarama, we will have to wait and see. He's not a big fan of road trips.
- John *.?-!.* cub owner
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Re: Hello from illinois
Unless you are a good machinist I would suggest sending the engine to an automotive machine shop. It will need valves ground or replaced, seats honed or the block cut out to install seats (originals are part of block). Cylinder honed or bored, and rings, or new pistons. Crank and rod bearings replaced, and probably crank turned. all of that needs done if you want it to run right and not have to tear it down again right away.
Before I did all of that I would take a look in transmission for rusty gears on the bottom shaft, etc.
Before I did all of that I would take a look in transmission for rusty gears on the bottom shaft, etc.
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you are part of the problem!!!
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- Tractors Owned: Cubs: (3)'49's, (1 is for parts), (1)'57 IH Cub LoBoy w/FH, (2)154 Number Series Loboys, (1 is for parts), '76 Longstripe w/FH, Mowers: C-22, Bush Hog 412, Pennington 59, Woods RM42CF, Woods 42, assorted FCub plows, planters, discs, etc. OTHERS: '49 AC B & Ind. Sickle mower, '61 AC D12 Ser 2, '52 8N, '56 Ferguson 35 Deluxe, '47 & '49 Avery V, '53 MM BG (offset), '51 JD M (regular), '56 JD 420C, with Blade and fire plow, '85 JD 850 (Yanmar) w/72" belly mower, '76? Yanmar 2TR15 1500 & Bush Hog SQ42S-2 mower, '78? FORD Dexta, '86 FORD LGT14D & 48" Mower, (2)Cub Cadets & Mowers (MTD), (4) Sears Surburban's, other MTD mowers, Jeeps & other misc. "treasures"
- Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: AL (Southwest)
Re: Hello from illinois
John is right on target. If you want to disassemble the engine before visiting the machine shop the next difficult chore is going to be getting the valves and pistons moving/out. Suggest you download the GSS engine rebuild service manual and learn how things are put together (if you don't already know). It's difficult to remove the pistons on an engine in this condition without removing the crankshaft because they are likely stuck pretty bad, but it can be done. Patience and lots of it is your best friend on one like this. Good Luck and keep posting.
Stan in LA (lower AL)
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Re: Hello from illinois
Welcome to forum as I am new as well.
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