Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

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Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:10 pm

Mowing with my 154 has been a complete pleasure, though there are some places that I had wished I could of slowed down. That being said after a good hour I was starting to feel more comfortable with the speed.

Can a creeper gear be added to a 154 that never had one?

And another off the wall question, has anyone added a 3 point hitch that didn't have one?

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby wagonmaster » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:27 pm

I think it would be more cost effective to sell yours and buy another with a creeper and 3pt. I have swapped 3pt from one of mine onto another 154 .

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:40 pm

The thought crossed my mind of finding another. :shock: But I've only had this one for about a week. ;)

I am pretty sure worst case scenario I can fab up a 3 point. The creeper gear just looks like a hi/low box that can be added.

All that being said, I am really bad about spending way to much money and time modifying and keeping what I have. One time I found myself with a cracked engine block on a 16ft old fiberglass boat. Everyone told me to dump it and buy another boat. I spent two years finding parts and pieces and stuffed a Ford 302 in it. Had to rebuild the stringers to support it and ended up swapping out trailer with one that could support the weight. Still have the boat and use it all the time! Sure I spent way more than what the boat was worth, but I was entertained! LOL

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby Eugene » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:09 pm

It would be less expensive purchasing a Numbered Cub Low-boy with a bad engine and with the parts desired than purchasing the needed parts for the change over.

Edit. It would be a very time consuming changing over all of the needed parts.

Actually, purchase another Numbered Cub Low-boy with creeper and 3-point. Then you would have two working/mowing Cubs.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby outdoors4evr » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:36 am

To answer your specific question, the creeper and the 3-point can be added. To add the creeper, a shorter driveshaft is required. The 3-point hitch can be added as well. The rear end sheet metal is replaced (exchanged) with the donor tractor. A cylinder is usually plumbed in with a Tee under the tunnel. Done right, a diverter valve is added in the tunnel and the cylinder is plumbed into the diverter valve. It would take about $1600ish to add both the creeper and the 3-point. Look for a donor tractor around that price range.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:38 pm

After much research, the 3 point will be easy and cheap to make. The most expensive part will be the bypass valve. The creeper gear on the other hand I'm having issues sourcing one. After moving a few trailers around tonight, I'd be willing to overpay for one. :shock:

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby outdoors4evr » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:03 am

Here's an aftermarket solution for the diverter valve.
https://www.surpluscenter.com/Brands/Prince-Mfg/3-8-NPT-20-GPM-Prince-Selector-Valve-9-6133.axd
You will have to make a support bracket that attaches it to the frame.

Be patient with the creepers. They do come up on ebay once in a while. One of our site sponsors might even have one that hasn't been disassembled for parts.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby mastercraft » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:04 pm

Hamilton bobs may have them....also try ebay

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby mozer71 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:21 pm

Io really would have liked a "creeper". I don't see it happening.. When loaded with high grass, I disengage the pto and back out. This happens on slopes or hills often. When the deck is re engaged , it comes to running speed, clearing out all the previous grass. Then the clutch is down, put it in first gear, lift the clutch slowly. The deck inertia turns into kinetic force . We proceed to mowing up uphill at a slant.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby mozer71 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:44 pm

The previous was not an answer. I'd get a creeper if I could. Of course everyone says I need a larger tractor.


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