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Check your load often
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Safety is an important and often overlooked topic. Make safety a part of your everyday life and let others know how much you care by making their lives safer too. Let the next generation of tractor enthusiasts benefit from your experience, and maybe save a life or appendages.
Safety is an important and often overlooked topic. Make safety a part of your everyday life and let others know how much you care by making their lives safer too. Let the next generation of tractor enthusiasts benefit from your experience, and maybe save a life or appendages.
- Barnyard
- Team Cub
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Check your load often
On our way to Cubarama we stopped at every rest stop to make sure our load was secure. On the way home we did the same until we stopped for a short rest at the rest stop just inside Indiana about 170 miles from home. About midnight we started on our way after I checked each tie down point and all was well. I drove straight through from that point on without stopping. We pulled in the drive way around two a.m. and went to bed.
This morning I saw this.
This morning I saw this.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.
- Ken (48 Cub)
- 10+ Years
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1957 LoBoy - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: KY, Fisherville
Re: Check your load often
Yep Bill, when I checked my load on a gas stop one of the straps was full loose. Amazing how they can work loose with all the bouncing. Glad you made it home safely.
Ken, Annie the '48.
I think we gotter if'n she don't jump, Andy Griffith.
I think we gotter if'n she don't jump, Andy Griffith.
- Indy4570
- 5+ Years
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- Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:12 am
- Zip Code: 65608
- Tractors Owned: 49 F cub, donor
50 Farmall Cub bugeyes(dead)
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62 140 Industrial The Beast
50s Allis Chalmers B
50 Ferguson TO20 Huppster
49 Ferguson TE20 Fergie
JD 790 4x4 w/backhoe
hinomoto diesel 4x4, early to mid 80s 20HP
73 Pasquali 4x4 diesel 33HP
74 Toro golf course tractor
Gilson 18HP - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Missouri Ozarks
Re: Check your load often
did you lose anything?
better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it...( YES this includes CUBS! )
- Barnyard
- Team Cub
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5 Lo-Boys (Round Hood)
2 Lo-Boys (Square Hood)
2 Farmall 404's
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Re: Check your load often
Indy4570 wrote:did you lose anything?
No, it doesn't look like it.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.
- Indy4570
- 5+ Years
- Posts: 961
- Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:12 am
- Zip Code: 65608
- Tractors Owned: 49 F cub, donor
50 Farmall Cub bugeyes(dead)
55 Farmall Cub Clementine
55 International loboy
62 140 Industrial The Beast
50s Allis Chalmers B
50 Ferguson TO20 Huppster
49 Ferguson TE20 Fergie
JD 790 4x4 w/backhoe
hinomoto diesel 4x4, early to mid 80s 20HP
73 Pasquali 4x4 diesel 33HP
74 Toro golf course tractor
Gilson 18HP - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Missouri Ozarks
Re: Check your load often
Barnyard wrote:Indy4570 wrote:did you lose anything?
No, it doesn't look like it.
well thankful for that, I have had a strap cut before, but I tend to over strap/chain loads so I have been lucky.
better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it...( YES this includes CUBS! )
- T-Mo
- 5+ Years
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- Joined: Tue May 16, 2017 9:25 am
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- Tractors Owned: '40 H
'44 B
'47 Cub
'49 C
54A Blade
42 Woods Mower
Henderson Loader
Cultivators
No. 8 Little Genius 2-12 Plow
IH Running Gear - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Bonne Terre, Mo
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- 10+ Years
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- Location: Mo. Potosi
Re: Check your load often
Just FYI the rule for commercial vehicle's is you must check ever 3 hours or 150 miles which ever comes first.
- MiCarl
- 5+ Years
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1944 Farmall H
1948 Farmall Cub (SOLD)
1994 Speedex 1631 - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Howell, MI
Re: Check your load often
After our last Plow Day I checked the straps on the Cub at about 5 miles and again at 30 when I stopped at an auto parts store. All were nice and tight. Drove the last 5 miles to my destination and in a tight turn noticed in the mirror that several were flopping loose.
You can never predict when things will shift.
That's why I use 8 1,000lb tie downs on the tractor and two additional 500lb tie downs on the plow.
You can never predict when things will shift.
That's why I use 8 1,000lb tie downs on the tractor and two additional 500lb tie downs on the plow.
1944 Farmall H
1948 Farmall Cub
1994 Speedex 1631
1948 Farmall Cub
1994 Speedex 1631
- John *.?-!.* cub owner
- Cub Pro
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- Tractors Owned: 47, 48, 49 cub plus Wagner loader & other attachments. 41 Farmall H.
- Location: Mo, Potosi
Re: Check your load often
Was in St Charles several years ago when a truck went by pulling a trailer with a loader and smaller road roller on it. He went past, and headed toward an overpass that had an incline to get over it, and just as I turned away, I heard a loud bang, and the road roller was setting in the street. He stopped the truck and ran back to the roller, and as he drove it back to trailer it was going thump, thump, thump, as the rollers turned. Bet that was fun when the front and rear got out of sync. I could not see any sign of a tie down on the trailer, either for the roller or the loader, though I was about 40 or so yards away. If that was an employee rather than owner I bet he did not have a job afterward.
If you are not part of the solution,
you are part of the problem!!!
you are part of the problem!!!
- T-Mo
- 5+ Years
- Posts: 2015
- Joined: Tue May 16, 2017 9:25 am
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'44 B
'47 Cub
'49 C
54A Blade
42 Woods Mower
Henderson Loader
Cultivators
No. 8 Little Genius 2-12 Plow
IH Running Gear - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Bonne Terre, Mo
Re: Check your load often
I have passed several trailers, especially ones carrying zero turns, that don't have their load tied down. I believe Missouri state law requires all loads to be sufficiently tied down.
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- 5+ Years
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Re: Check your load often
It's probably a good idea to follow the commercial laws for securement.
Unless an item is completely held in place by other secured freight, every item must be covered by at least two straps. If an item is held in place by other items, it still needs at least one strap.
While it's probably not an issue with this stuff, an item that is heavier than 10,000 lbs requires a third strap, and one more strap for every additional 10,000 lbs. So an 11,000 lb item would have at least 3 straps.
The capacity of all the hold-downs should be marked on the hold-down, whether it's a strap, cable, or chain.
Something like a car should have at a strap or chain at the front that exceeds the weight of the vehicle, and two at the rear of the same capacity. More straps/chains is a good idea.
Unless an item is completely held in place by other secured freight, every item must be covered by at least two straps. If an item is held in place by other items, it still needs at least one strap.
While it's probably not an issue with this stuff, an item that is heavier than 10,000 lbs requires a third strap, and one more strap for every additional 10,000 lbs. So an 11,000 lb item would have at least 3 straps.
The capacity of all the hold-downs should be marked on the hold-down, whether it's a strap, cable, or chain.
Something like a car should have at a strap or chain at the front that exceeds the weight of the vehicle, and two at the rear of the same capacity. More straps/chains is a good idea.
- Barnyard
- Team Cub
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Re: Check your load often
Mrblanche wrote:Unless an item is completely held in place by other secured freight, every item must be covered by at least two straps.
These had two straps on them when we left Missouri. They still had them when we last checked two hours from home.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.
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- 5+ Years
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Re: Check your load often
Were the straps gone, or had they just slipped off?
On the way home with my new Cub yesterday, I had a strap come loose by moving just enough to slip out of the pocket. Two inches, or so. Because of how the parts were on the trailer, I couldn't get it any tighter than that.
But when they do the annual DOT crack-down for trucks, the inspectors go heavily for flatbedders. The rules are so difficult to follow that almost every trailer has some violations. I never did much flatbedding. It's a good way to die, if you aren't extremely picky.
On the way home with my new Cub yesterday, I had a strap come loose by moving just enough to slip out of the pocket. Two inches, or so. Because of how the parts were on the trailer, I couldn't get it any tighter than that.
But when they do the annual DOT crack-down for trucks, the inspectors go heavily for flatbedders. The rules are so difficult to follow that almost every trailer has some violations. I never did much flatbedding. It's a good way to die, if you aren't extremely picky.
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- Team Cub
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Re: Check your load often
Mrblanche wrote:. . . The rules are so difficult to follow that almost every trailer has some violations. . . .
I'd agree about 50% with that statement. I think a lot of the confusion comes from taking others word of mouth opinion on what the rules are. (Some of those questionable opinions come from DOT inspectors.) If you read the rules, they aren't that hard to understand. You only need to read the sections applicable to what you are carrying. However, there are some places where it says for XXX type of load you can use this section or use the rules for YYY type of load. Light tractors like a Cub are an example. They can be tied down as heavy equipment or as an automobile or as general freight.
Most states have directly adopted the federal DOT rules. Some states rewrite their own versions. Some appear to have been to clarify but managed to change them in the process.
Here are the actual regulations.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulati ... policy.htm
- Barnyard
- Team Cub
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5 Lo-Boys (Round Hood)
2 Lo-Boys (Square Hood)
2 Farmall 404's
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1 Ferguson 20
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Re: Check your load often
Mrblanche wrote:Were the straps gone, or had they just slipped off?
Slipped off.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.
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