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Strange Cub

Postby Wmnido » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:59 pm

I just brought home a 1949 Farmall Cub, but it appears a previous owner flipped the rear drives, and also flipped the front steering lowering the tractor. I am relatively new to the Cub scene, so is this modification popular or something unheard of ? Also how do you post photos? I am new to this site. Thanks !

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby Barnyard » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:42 pm

Sounds like you just brought home a Loboy.
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Re: Strange Cub

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:33 pm

Welcome to the Form and congrats on your "new to you" Cub. Follow this link to the HOW TO subforum for posting pictures and lots of other information. viewforum.php?f=148

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby T-Mo » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:45 pm

If it's a Loboy, it's not a '49.

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:55 pm

Who knows what happened to it in the past? Could be a Frankintractor with a collection of different parts. :o Pictures, casting codes and SN's will help ID what this is. :hattip:

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby tst » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:58 pm

bet some one changed the bolster leaving the tag for the 49 on it and its a loboy, post a picture of it

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby Glen » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:48 pm

Hi,
The model of the Cub was originally on the serial number plate, but the paint can wear off the plate, and you might not be able to read it anymore.
IH started making LoBoys in 1955. The final drives are turned 1/4 turn from how the Farmall Cub is, so the rear wheels are farther ahead.
The front axle has shorter spindle shafts, to lower the front down, to match the rear.

Below is a page from the Cub parts manual, showing what a 1949 Cub looked like, in the top pic.

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-11.jpg

Below is a page showing a newer Cub in the top pic, and the first style Loboy in the lower pic.

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-13.jpg

The LoBoys have their own serial numbers, shown in the info on this website, at the top of the page.
They do not use Farmall Cub serial numbers.
But if someone has changed the part the serial number plate is on, then it could have the wrong plate. :)

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:36 pm

A picture or two may help clear things up.
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you are part of the problem!!!

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby Indy4570 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:43 pm

I pictured one of those rat tractor conversions they do with the Allis B models
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Re: Strange Cub

Postby Wmnido » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:01 pm

I will post some photos tomorrow. Thanks guys !

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby IHCFan1950 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:06 pm

Gotta be a Lowboy. Can't wait to see some pics!
If a sharp rap with your hammer doesn't work, you know it's an electrical problem! :lol:

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby Glen » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:50 pm

Hi,
Below are pics of Cub serial number plates, from TM Tractor. You can see the model is on the plate. The plates are different styles over the years.
The 1st is from a 1949 Farmall Cub.
The 2nd is from a 1958 Cub LoBoy.
Attachments
Cub plate 1949.jpg
Cub plate 1958.jpg

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:40 am

Hi Wmnido, now that you have 2 posts you can access and download any of the manuals that interest you. They're at the Quick links tab at the top left corner of this page, go to pdf manuals and browse the folders there. Lots of valuable information for IH tractors and implements as well as some aftermarket equipment.

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby Cubfriend » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:25 pm

I think I have seen this tractor listed in California before. The finals are reversed from the conventional Loboy to extend the wheel base. The hood looked like a 49 with the three ribs on the side. The front axle may have been nonadjustable. Was it in Grass Valley?
Frank

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Re: Strange Cub

Postby Wmnido » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:43 pm

No. I purchased from a guy in Murrieta. Still working on posting some photos.


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