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Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:52 am

Talking about the IH Factories and production schedules has got me thinking. Is there any information out there that was published by IH for use by the dealers shops? Specifically regarding how long (hours/minutes) a particular repair would take. It would be interesting to see what amount of time IH determined a certain repair should take.

For Example:
Radiator Replacement - Bill 3 hours labor
Troubleshoot Charging System - Bill 2 hours labor
Engine Swap - Bill 16 hours labor
Engine Rebuild - Bill 26 hours labor
Tune-up - Bill 1.5 hours labor
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Re: Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby baldwindiesel » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:00 am

There is for Cub Cadet's so there has to be for IH farm tractors.
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Re: Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby Jim Becker » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:44 am

Yes. The ones from the 1930's just quote $$ for each task. But they don't seem to say what hourly rate they are based on. So it doesn't tell you the actual time estimates.

I have a newer one from about 1972, covering tractors for the Farm Equipment Division. It is about 4-1/2 inches thick. The Cub isn't in it, it starts with the 140 and goes bigger. The Cub is probably included in the book that covers Cub Cadets.

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Re: Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby Eugene » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:47 am

https://www.westerneda.com/wp-content/u ... atRate.pdf

Above link is for tractors 40 hp and up. I didn't look any further than the link. There probably is a flat rate manual for smaller tractors.

The flat rate manuals we had in the early 1970's were very thick books. I'm not sure any non-dealer or mechanics would spend $240- per manual.
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Re: Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby TallCoolOne58 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:58 am

Eugene wrote:https://www.westerneda.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/AgricultureFlatRate.pdf

Above link is for tractors 40 hp and up. I didn't look any further than the link. There probably is a flat rate manual for smaller tractors.

The flat rate manuals we had in the early 1970's were very thick books. I'm not sure any non-dealer or mechanics would spend $240- per manual.


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Re: Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:21 pm

Jim Becker wrote:Yes. The ones from the 1930's just quote $$ for each task. But they don't seem to say what hourly rate they are based on. So it doesn't tell you the actual time estimates.

I have a newer one from about 1972, covering tractors for the Farm Equipment Division. It is about 4-1/2 inches thick. The Cub isn't in it, it starts with the 140 and goes bigger. The Cub is probably included in the book that covers Cub Cadets.


You wouldn't know of a copy of the 140 book or the Cub Cadet book online would you? I would love to see what their time estimates were and compare as to what it takes me for similar repairs. Not really curious enough to buy one, but it would be neat to see.
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Re: Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:34 am

Jim Becker wrote:Yes. The ones from the 1930's just quote $$ for each task. But they don't seem to say what hourly rate they are based on. So it doesn't tell you the actual time estimates.

I have a newer one from about 1972, covering tractors for the Farm Equipment Division. It is about 4-1/2 inches thick. The Cub isn't in it, it starts with the 140 and goes bigger. The Cub is probably included in the book that covers Cub Cadets.


Would you be interested in sharing Jim? Maybe put it in the pdf manual section? It would be interesting to see the differences from a 140 to a 560, for example.
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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:28 pm

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Re: Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:55 pm

I'm not going to scan 4-1/2 inches of paper.

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Re: Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:44 pm

Jim Becker wrote:I'm not going to scan 4-1/2 inches of paper.
I understand that. That's a big book!
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Re: Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:46 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:https://www.jensales.com/products/international-harvester-tractor-flat-rate-manual-1924-1971.html
Thanks for finding that John.
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