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1957 Cub with Blade

Postby 1954Frank » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:17 am

This Cub has been for sale near me for about a year. Serial number indicates 1957. He also has a 57 parts Cub with mower and wants to sell all as a package. Seller is asking too much - but I really like it. Haven't driven it, heard it run or anything. I drive past it twice a day going to and from work.

Did I mention that I like it? So none of you guys get any ideas. :wink:

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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby Barnyard » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:28 am

1954Frank wrote:Seller is asking too much - but I really like it.

Well, if you really like it, go for it. But you may pay too much.
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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby MiCarl » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:23 pm

Something is not right with the blade. The pressure spring lifting strap is too short - the touch control is in the low position and the blade doesn't even appear to be on the ground. For that matter I think it'll bind if it's raised. Has it been cut off or is that the blade for a LoBoy? Also, the rock shaft extension is missing.

It doesn't matter though because you're not pushing anything with those tires. Maybe a bit of snow if it's got chains.

Without knowing the condition of the parts Cub or mower is hard to evaluate the value. You didn't share his ask anyhow.....

Assuming good running condition I think what is in the picture is worth about $1500 (tractor $1,200, wheel weights $300, blade $0). Having written that I think my number might be high. Those rear tires have a negative value unless using it strictly as a mower, and then only on flat dry lawn.
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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:41 pm

The pressure spring rod assembly is definitely from an L-54.

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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby 1954Frank » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:45 pm

Thanks for the comments... The blade is down on the pavement. Help me learn: what's wrong/ incorrect about the pressure spring rod. A few more pictures posted. Maybe you guys can advise me further, thanks.
I also do not like the tires. They are 7.50-24 truck tires, I think. The seller did have two spare rear wheels with tires, ag type. I don't know if they are still available or not.
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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby Shane Nelson » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:15 pm

If you’ll notice the picture Don posted from TM with both rods, the one has 3 holes above the spring, the other one has 2 holes. The 2 hole one is for a Lo-Boy. The Cub you posted pictures of has the Lo-Boy rod on an F-Cub.
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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:28 pm

Looks like it would push down far enough, but I would sure make sure I set those stops on the hydraulic quadrant so you didn't raise the plow right up into the oil pan or clutch housing (not sure how far forward the blade sits). There's a lot of "up travel" on that rockshaft!

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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby 1954Frank » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:54 pm

Thanks again. From the right side view it appears the blade sets under the clutch housing. And I see the difference in the spring rods and why the longer one "fits" the cub better. I will have to look at it closer.

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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby MiCarl » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:58 pm

With the new pictures I can see the blade is mounted wrong to get it down on the ground. It should be mounted at the center holes, not the top. The multiple holes are designed to tip the blade for terracing. If you go up on the right you compensate by going down on the left and vice versa. He's mounted both sides on the top hole to lower the blade.

In the proper set up you use the longer lifting strap and there is a 5" extension on the rock shaft. That lets the blade be mounted properly and gives you the full range of travel on the blade.

The rock shaft extension is no big deal - it's just a piece of steel strap about 8" long with three holes in it. I just made one for my F Cub last week.

The next time I have mine out I'll get you a picture of the set up.
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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby MiCarl » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:14 am

After I went to bed I remembered that I already had a picture:

54 Blade.jpg


It's not a great picture but you should be able to see that the pushing frame is pretty much parallel to the ground (the blade is down). You can also see the rock shaft extension. The rock shaft extension gives enough travel so the blade can be lifted well clear of the ground and also apply pressure to the spring for down force when lowered.
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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby 1954Frank » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:46 am

Thanks Carl. That picture helps a lot.

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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby Peter Person » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:34 pm

You will also want to find out if he has the parts to be able to front mount the blade for snow plowing.
From TM Tractor website;
http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim/bladel54pallet_001.htm

You can front mount an L54 Loboy Blade on a standard Cub - you actually get more lift on the blade.

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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby 1954Frank » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:05 pm

Thanks Peter for the link. Thanks all. I stopped by where the tractor is parked today after work. The blade is down on the pavement. Without seeing it operate it's hard for me to tell how high it will lift or if it will have any down pressure.

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Re: 1957 Cub with Blade

Postby 1954Frank » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:30 am

I first mentioned this tractor in my New Guy post back in October.
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=102469&p=814104#p810477
In that thread I posted 2 pictures of the parts tractor and mower that's part of the deal. I asked for some help identifying the mower. I know they are poor pictures especially with the tall grass all around. I should go back by there since we've had a killing frost.
Thanks for all responses.


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