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2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby SONNY » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:44 pm

New year and time to start thinking about the gardens for this year.
Seed books have been in the mail for a while now and it's a good time to think about what you would like to grow this year.
We have on order for this year the onion plants and sweet potato plants. They have been paid for and will be shipped at planting time for this area.
I have a few different things to try this year so we will see how things pan out.
Join in and post your ideas/plans in this thread!! ---This will run for the whole year! THANKS, and happy gardening for 2019!! From Sonny.

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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby Shane Nelson » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:16 pm

I haven’t been able to plow our garden from 2018 yet. Been to wet. I usually have it plowed in November.
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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby Eugene » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:12 pm

Just gardening the small plot behind the house in town this year. Have the seed on hand for garlic, radish, and cherry tomatoes.

Need to order ground cherry seeds and a different clove of garlic.

Ground cherries grew wild in our Iowa farm garden. They are an invasive weed in some areas, specially row crop areas. I don't think they will be a problem in this part of the Ozarks, mostly timber, hay, and pasture. The only row crops are miles distant.

This spring will finish removing the blackberry trellis and kill off any remaining black berries. Several years ago gave daughter starts for her Iowa garden years ago.

Think I will order a couple different types of pecan trees to plant on the acreage.
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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby SONNY » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:46 pm

I got lucky on the fall plowing, I used the newer cub and a modified 10" bottom Brinley plow. I made it up to fit my homemade 3-pt hitch and when I got an area harvested, I hit it with the plow, little by little, the gardens got plowed by the cub. ( bout 4 acres total)
I still have 2 pecan trees that survived, one is 10' tall and the other is 6' tall. Last spring we transplanted a bunch of peach seedlings and now some of them are over 6' tall. also planted 23 new fruit trees that are around 10' tall. They were in 3 and 5 gallon nursery pots. Sis got them at discount late spring from Lowes. they wanted them gone so she made them a offer on the whole bunch. We planted them here in one of the gardens so it became an orchard. Will see how they do/if they live, and what they are. some are apple, pear, and 1 is a crab. ( been wanting a crabapple tree for a long time) thanks; sonny

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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby rockfarmer » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:39 am

Planting onions as soon as the ground dries up...anybody figured out how to plant onions with a cub?

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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby Urbish » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:58 am

Last year I planted 12 rows of sweet corn, staggered two at a time over 6 weeks and some pumpkins on the fringe. We had a terribly dry summer and my harvest made it not worth the effort of watering and cultivating vs. buying locally grown sweet corn at 6/$1. I think this year I will plant all pumpkins. If they do well, my daughters' girl scout troops can do a pumpkin sale fundraiser instead.

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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby Peter Person » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:27 am

Shane Nelson wrote:I haven’t been able to plow our garden from 2018 yet. Been to wet. I usually have it plowed in November.


Same here in Connecticut, never had more than a couple of days without rain - just too wet!

Vegetable Garden 30' x 60';
Best we could do is pull out all the plant trash, cucumber trellis, tomato & pepper stakes, etc.
Usually rototill and plant a cover crop of rye but not this fall.

Raspberry-Asparagus-Strawberry Patch 20' x 40';
Canes trimmed back where appropriate, strawberries covered with straw.

Ground behind the vegetable garden is frozen now, so plan on trimming the overhanging white pine branches to let more morning sun in. White pines make a terrible yard tree and worse property border! Bought our lot in 1994, pines were about 15' tall and the largest was maybe 8" diameter. Now they are 50' tall and upwards of 2' diameter. Only upside is all the lower branches have died off.

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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby Bill Hudson » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:40 am

Eugene wrote:Need to order ground cherry seeds and a different clove of garlic.

Ground cherries grew wild in our Iowa farm garden. They are an invasive weed in some areas, specially row crop areas. I don't think they will be a problem in this part of the Ozarks, mostly timber, hay, and pasture. The only row crops are miles distant.


My MIL made the best ground cherry pie and boy do I miss her and the pie.

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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby Eugene » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:54 am

Bill Hudson wrote:My MIL made the best ground cherry pie and boy do I miss her and the pie.
As a kid we would eat the fallen, husk dried, ground cherries in the garden. They never made it into the house.

I'm hoping to get enough ground cherries for daughter to make jam and perhaps a cobbler.
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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby SONNY » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:55 pm

Sis is on the ground cherry kick!! Had a bunch 2 years ago, and 1 plant last year! --- She planted some tomatillos just to see what they were/tasted like and YUCK!! THANKS; SONNY

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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby outdoors4evr » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:38 am

Here in the Great Lakes State, we are still months from gardening, but I am really getting the bug. We moved last year to a new home with more ground and didn't plant a garden last year. I am really missing the fresh vegetables from the garden.
So here's the problem. I need to establish a garden in an area that was a mowed weed field. I didn't have time to spray or rototill in the fall so I need to make a viable garden that produces first year. Do I dare spray the area with glysophate or should I just till the weeds under so it won't kill the vegetable plants? Ground is frozen so no tilling can happen until late March or April.
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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby Urbish » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:01 am

outdoors4evr wrote:Here in the Great Lakes State, we are still months from gardening, but I am really getting the bug. We moved last year to a new home with more ground and didn't plant a garden last year. I am really missing the fresh vegetables from the garden.
So here's the problem. I need to establish a garden in an area that was a mowed weed field. I didn't have time to spray or rototill in the fall so I need to make a viable garden that produces first year. Do I dare spray the area with glysophate or should I just till the weeds under so it won't kill the vegetable plants? Ground is frozen so no tilling can happen until late March or April.
Frost risk ends around Memorial Day so I can't put my plants outside until then.


I had the same issue when I moved a few years ago. I ended up plowing up an area of the lawn and hit it hard with the disc just before planting. I had to do a lot of cultivating as I fought the buried sod the first year, but the garden was pretty productive.

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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby Eugene » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:20 pm

Soil tests as soon as possible.

The problem with glysophate is that it will only kill green growing plants. I would deep plow, turn the soil over, in an attempt to put as few buried seeds on or near the soil surface.

Probably not going to make any difference, you will have to fight the weeds for several years.

Edit. Some seeds can remain dormant in the soil for years.
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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby Peter Person » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:46 pm

We've gotten away from Glyphosate in the garden and use fabric between the plants and grass clippings on top of the fabric. Seems to work pretty well and keeps the moisture in the soil.
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Re: 2019 Gardens, All sizes

Postby SONNY » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:15 pm

Spring plowing works, just have to watch out for clods!---Plow late, and chop up chunks really fine then plant. --- did that a couple years when fall work didn't happen. Weeds are always a problem no matter when you plow, just have to keep at them.
I use a good pre-emerge on parts of the big gardens. It helps, problem is that I don't mix it as strong as I really should! Thanks; sonny


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