"Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

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"Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Dale Finch » Sat May 23, 2020 1:16 pm

Not mine, but I thought someone was looking for these (or something like them)...on Facebook Marketplace:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/901705933590613/

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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun May 24, 2020 4:22 pm

What the heck?
New one for me, can you explain these?
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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Dale Finch » Sun May 24, 2020 6:04 pm

Nope, but Super A was looking for some larger ones...guess he could explain them. I had never heard of them until his WANTED ad.

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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Bill Hudson » Sun May 24, 2020 6:20 pm

Set screws/clamps on each of the rails. Adjusting the rear tread width is as simple as loosening the set screws/clamps on one wheel and setting the brake on the opposite wheel to spin the wheel center. The tire will slide in or out depending on which way you spin the wheel center. Really slick and quick compared to other methods of adjust tread width.

There are YouTube videos on the process. Do a search for spin out tractor wheels or power adjust tractor wheels.

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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Dale Finch » Sun May 24, 2020 6:38 pm

Neat! Maybe if/when Al gets the set he is looking for, he will post a short video of the adjustment.

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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Super A » Sun May 24, 2020 9:48 pm

i think they debuted on the Allis tractors, like the WD. By the 50s-60s just about every manufacturer offered some sort of spin out option. The advantage was you didn't have to jack up the tractor and swap wheels side to side to change the wheel setting. That was a real advantage if you had loaded tires and/or wheel weights. Allis and JD, maybe MF used a cam screw on each rail to lock it, IH used a jack screw--you had to be careful to tighten them up equally or you'd bounce on the road in high gear. They would slide easier if you'd dribble a little oil on the rails or just spray them with WD 40--granddaddy used a squirt can with used engine oil. If you did everything right you could dump the clutch and it would go all the way in or out without repeatedly popping it like the guy did in the video.

There were lots of utility type tractors sold here between 35-50 HP that were used as row crop tractors. You set wheels narrow to plow and then set them wide to plant, spray, and cultivate. Daddy's IH 424 ('67) has them. It was a spring/summer ritual, widen it out in the spring, close it up when crops were laid by. I don't remember changing the stop blocks he talked about. We had the centers dished in so it had to spin all the way out for 38" rows, you couldn't close it all the way up or the wheels would rub the fender so I believe daddy just kept one stop at the minimum position which I believe was 52". In all honesty he might've "eyeballed it." I was just a boy then--thought I thought I was grown when I could reset it myself.....

I have seen more IH utilty tractors with spin outs than without. Of course, I had to end up with the one that doesn't have them!

Al

Here is a pic of the ones I'm looking for:
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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Dale Finch » Mon May 25, 2020 9:06 am

Neat! Now I see why you want them, Al! Good luck!

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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Eugene » Mon May 25, 2020 6:35 pm

Super A wrote:I don't remember changing the stop blocks he talked about.
Once the stop block was set in place for what ever use by the farmer, they were seldom to never moved.

I have 2 WD Allis Chalmers with spin out rims. Since I have owned the tractors I have never adjusted the tire width.

After purchasing my WDs I tried to loosen the spin out locks. Frozen tight. Lots of PB Blaster, time, 3/4" drive breaker bar and 6' cheater bar to break them loose.
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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby tldec50 » Mon May 25, 2020 7:47 pm

On my mf I find it easier to set the stops where I need to set width then jack up tractor with a floor jack to take the weight off the wheels,then loosening the wheel locks becomes so much easier,then rotate wheel by hand to the stops and tighten the locks ,lower tractor drive away.

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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Cubfriend » Mon May 25, 2020 9:22 pm

Al, I have a friend that is having an auction. He has a pair of spinout rims from a Allis CA I believe. Don’t know if they are different. They are powder coated and in good shape. Aumann Auction has them listed. The auction ends tomorrow at 6:00PM The auction seller name is Lewis Barth. May be 10 x 24. No tires. If you are interested I think I have given you enough information to look it up and ask questions. In Nebraska. Good Luck!
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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Super A » Mon May 25, 2020 9:31 pm

Cubfriend wrote:Al, I have a friend that is having an auction. He has a pair of spinout rims from a Allis CA I believe. Don’t know if they are different. They are powder coated and in good shape. Aumann Auction has them listed. The auction ends tomorrow at 6:00PM The auction seller name is Lewis Barth. May be 10 x 24. No tires. If you are interested I think I have given you enough information to look it up and ask questions. In Nebraska. Good Luck!


The Allis rims and centers are different. The ones I need are 28" with 13.6-28 tires.

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Re: "Spin out" rims with 12.4-24 tires.

Postby Cubfriend » Mon May 25, 2020 10:57 pm

10-4, wasn’t sure if they were different.
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