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Which do I want?

Postby Denny Clayton » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:53 am

Been thinking about getting a Super A or a 140 to put my 1000 loader on. Several reasons, but mainly to have a larger tractor around and a more substantial tractor to carry the loader. A Cub is OK, but just have an itch to put it on a bigger frame. I really don't relish having one more tractor to care for, so I would probably sell one or two Cubs or even trade if the right circumstance came along.

Having never owned either one I don't know much about them. Looking for opinions, advice, where to look, what to watch out for, etc. The loader manual says to remove the fixed drawbar but says nothing about a fast hitch. From that I presume the loader and fast hitch can co-exist.

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Re: Which do I want?

Postby Boss Hog » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:02 am

140 much better IMO
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Re: Which do I want?

Postby Super A » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:40 pm

Boss Hog wrote:140 much better IMO


Super A's are my favorite but for a loader, Boss is probably about right. A lot of castings (final drives stick out in my mind) were revised over Super A-100-130-140 production. Might be a little stronger for a loader. To be honest, most of the stuff that are worn out on a later 140 will be just as worn out on a Super A.

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Re: Which do I want?

Postby danovercash » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:50 am

Boss loves those late model tractors!
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Re: Which do I want?

Postby Super A » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:57 am

Denny, The only caveat I can think of, those late model 140's are priced on up there. If a given late model 140 has many hours on it I don't know that the premium price justifies the condition that it's likely to be in---you might buy a worn out Super A, bring it back to tip top shape, and have comparable money invested than you would buying a late model 140 that needs some work.

A good friend of mine who was raised up around an IH dealer (and sold IH for a while) said that he preferred the early model 140's to the newer ones due to QC issues caused by worn out tooling.

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Re: Which do I want?

Postby Boss Hog » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:26 pm

unless it is a later model SA leave it alone , make sure it has the new type tire rods on it . The 123 is also a plus. If you find a 140 check it over just like any other tractor a worn out 140 does not bring top dollar, just like a worn out SA. just check the right brake pedal that will tell the tail. if there is much side to side movement in it, It is worn out , been down too many tobacco rows You get what you pay for. There are still some good late models out there. There are very very few good SAs out there. do not rule out the 100 and 130 models if you find a good one. But I would still go with a Post 1973 140 if I could find one. I know you have heard Al speak of the loose axle, I do not see that often on the later 140s Case closed
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Re: Which do I want?

Postby spaceghost » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:04 pm

I don't want to disagree with the Boss or Supper A, I respect both of their views and experience.

Here is a picture of my 1950 SA with a Fast Hitch and IH 1000 Loader. I love the SA and it has lots of power compered to a cub. I don't pick anything up by myself in my yard anymore. There is nothing wrong with a 100 130 or 140 but I like the Supper A with the loader and fast hitch

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Re: Which do I want?

Postby tractordad » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:27 pm

spaceghost wrote:I don't want to disagree with the Boss or Supper A, I respect both of their views and experience.

Here is a picture of my 1950 SA with a Fast Hitch and IH 1000 Loader. I love the SA and it has lots of power compered to a cub. I don't pick anything up by myself in my yard anymore. There is nothing wrong with a 100 130 or 140 but I like the Supper A with the loader and fast hitch

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Re: Which do I want?

Postby Yogie » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:02 am

That's really sharp and the loader looks so much better than mounted on a cub.
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Re: Which do I want?

Postby Denny Clayton » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:27 am

Yogie wrote:That's really sharp and the loader looks so much better than mounted on a cub.

I agree, much better sized for the larger tractor.
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Re: Which do I want?

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:34 pm

The only possible issue I could see is that when you'd have a full bucket (or alot of weight up front), the steering would be hard to turn. With the loader, I feel like a power steering modification would be a must. That is why I rely on our skid steer loaders and our larger diesel tractor with the front end loader and power steering. Haven't owned an IH 1000 loader before though, so this is purely speculation.


Denny Clayton wrote:
Yogie wrote:That's really sharp and the loader looks so much better than mounted on a cub.

I agree, much better sized for the larger tractor.
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Re: Which do I want?

Postby spaceghost » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:51 pm

I have drove F cubs with the 1000 loader and the searing is little hard but not terrible. The cubs searing is pretty good for a grown man but a child would have a hard time.
The SA is a different story the tires are bigger and as long as the tractor is moving the searing is useable even with a heavy lode for a grown man and of course I am biased.

Thanks for all the comments about my SA it was a lot of work and I got a lot of help from here.
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Re: Which do I want?

Postby Eugene » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:00 pm

Skid steer, 30 to 40 hp range. Keep the Cub. Skid steers beat a loader tractor any day.

Own two skid steers. Use them as loaders, lift and move machinery, pull fence posts, haul gravel and such, move snow, scrape and level areas, the larger skid steer as a small bulldozer removing tree stumps. Also lots of different attachments available. Recently attached the snow blade to the front of the smaller skid steer.

But, skid steers do not work very well for normal farm tractor work.
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Re: Which do I want?

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:11 pm

Yep.....that is what we use em for too! Really handy machines. My only complaint with them is that when doing this frequent work my gravel driveway, graveled equipment yard, and grassed back yard always stay torn up and messy from the tires digging into everything. With a loader tractor, you don't have that. Just put 3 loads of gravel down about a year and a half ago, and now it doesn't hardly look like I've got any!
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