Triple Rear Wheel Weights on Cub an Option ?

[Paul in NJ]

All

To improve traction for snow plowing, has anyone used 3 sets of weights per wheel on the rear wheels ? In my situation, I have 8.3 X 24 Ag tires, clear a combination surface of packed quarry mix at one end and transistioning to blacktop. I am not using chains as to not damage the blacktop surface. Have single weights installed now and have two more sets available.

Paul in NJ

1951 Farmall Cub

[inairam]

I have seen one on the inside and 2 on the outside.

I think a better option is very worn Ag tires or turf tires with chains. If used properly they do not damage the blacktop.

[Barnyard]

I have no problem with single weights. Double should do fine for you. Triple may be a bit of overkill, as well as a bear to install.

[Urbish]

I wonder if anybody has successfully gone to town on a set of ag tires with a tread cutter or siping tool to make them more knobby and get better grip in snow.

https://www.plowsite.com/threads/cutting-sipes-into-ag-tires.168091/

AND

https://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/tractor-equipment-maintenance/17633-r4-tire-siping-grooving-improved-traction.html#/topics/17633?page=3&_k=zf1rd0

[John *.?-!.* cub owner]

I have seen one on the inside and 2 on the outside.......

I think that will only work with the disc turned out.

[BigBill]

Regular standard cross links on chains with one rear weight you should be ok. The ice bars dig into the pavement. Now the more weight you add the more down pressure is put on the chains.

Are your tires loaded?

[BigBill]

I mainly plow with a 55 Willy’s jeep with loc rites in the differentials, full four wheel drive with four sets of chains. The best $400 I ever spent.

I plowed with my fcub and int154 lo Boy with my ice link duo cross chains. Big improvement.

I watched a hired plow guy park his one ton plow truck and use a snowblower to do the neighbors driveway. My Willy’s pushed every bit of deep snow and didn’t break a sweat. Let me drive that one ton truck.

[Paul in NJ]

The lugs are still deep on the Ag tires so once I get a blacktop with ice, traction is low. Now has Farmall A weights on it. I can remove the Farmall A weights and replace with 2 Farmall Cub weights per wheel. Not sure if I use a Farmall A weight with a second Farmall Cub weight how well they will stack given the different dimensions of the weights. The tires are not loaded. I understand folks fill tires using windshield washer fluid instead of calcium cloride to avoid the corrision problem T/F ?

[Lt.Mike]

Paul I’m in NJ too. I plow with a single set front and rear on ag tires and do just fine without chains. I have chains too but they stay hanging in the barn as they will mark up blacktop and concrete driveways. If you plow on a steep grade weights probably won’t help and a 4x4 is what I’d say is needed. On the level my Cub will push aside up to 10” if snow. Heavier snow will stop the tractor if you try to do it in a one shot straight run. What you do is to take sweeping bites swinging from left to right pushing it off to the side , back up and do it again. Also if it’s an expected heavy snowfall I’ll go out when it reaches 6” blast it clear and go warm up until it get there again. The first run should be wide so that you have room to pile the next runs against.
Ribbed front tires on the front with weights steer better and slide less.
Below is a link to my plowing 4” of snow with my ‘58 Lo-Boy. Note that it has ag tires, no chains and I had no weights mounted when I did this.
https://youtu.be/xWiexEhcmFM
You can double stack the rear weights but if it gives you traction to push against really heavy snow are you also pushing the tractors power limits. I’d rather break traction than the tractor.

PS- If you end up with an extra set of weights you find you don’t need I’ll buy them from you.
I have that ‘52 Cub I just added to the family that I want to set up to plow with next winter.

[Lt.Mike]

Now has Farmall A weights on it. I can remove the Farmall A weights and replace with 2 Farmall Cub weights per wheel. Not sure if I use a Farmall A weight with a second Farmall Cub weight how well they will stack

Is this your Cub?

A and Cub weight stacking is not a good idea.
The possibility of them shifting is pretty good.
You should do fine with one set.
Like I said above, take bites. It goes quick and beats the heck out of shoveling or blowing.

[inairam]

I mainly plow with a 55 Willy’s jeep with loc rites in the differentials, full four wheel drive with four sets of chains.

Best way to plow snow especially in tight spots. I had willy's and a Kieser with the 225 Buick v6 - that was great for plowing in the snow.

[ricky racer]

What about something like these??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My7KlirDQio

I run double weights on mine for snow plowing and hang some garden tractor suitcase weights on my homemade step to weight the light side of the tractor. Here is a picture of the suitcase weights before the second weights were added.



I run chains with extra cross links added. In the past I've added weight to the draw bar as well but since adding the weights to the step and adding the additional cross links, I haven't needed the extra weight.

[Lt.Mike]

Adding weight to the wheels themselves cause no harm but suitcase weights and anything hung from the frame put added strain on the wheel bearings and finals.

[Paul in NJ]

Some good input on the wheel weights. By eye it looked like the A and Cub weights wouldn't stack given the different shapes. I will go with just dual Cub weights. My driveway is flat, starts as packed quarry mix and then transistions to blacktop to the street. I share the blacktop drive, hence my concern with damage from chains. I will check into those rubber faced tire chains Rick shows. I also have the step similar to what Rick shows so adding fixed weight to the chassis via this feature looks to be an option. I use the Cub for snow clearing in winter and in spring thru fall use a Cub 22 sickle bar for the back part of my property. Not many hours per year so added weight, within the capability should be OK. The Cub with single weights does plow snow and I could live with the setup I have now. Cub beats any garden tractor/snowblower setup I have seen. For the big storms, once we get 6 inches I go out and plow, as I learned long ago that plowing 12 inches of snow is 4X harder that 6 inches. I do try to help my neighbors with snow removal when we get those bigger snow storms so more traction would help with those situations. This is my second Cub, first one was in 1967/68, a 1949 model, I was 11 years old. It did better plowing snow since it had filled tires, single weights and well worn Ag tires. I compare my 1951 today to that one and want to get the performance to that level.

[Paul in NJ]

Lt. Mike - Picked up your question. No. not my Cub, but the rear tire and wheel weight configuration are the same as mine. Where did you get the picture from ?