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Field Plow Angle

Postby farmalllove » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:40 pm

I have just attached the plow to my cub for the first time. I noticed immediately that the angle of the plow prevented it from digging in. I need help adjusting this angle to that I will be able to plow in a couple of weeks.https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VEyFms6wY_-QC0tG4k3_MhshIFo9zio8
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby Barnyard » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:17 pm

It’s not the plow angle, you need the depth lever and attaching hardware.
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby SONNY » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:51 pm

You will have to get all of the depth lever and and attaching hardware to finish the install job before you can use the plow!

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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby BullDAWG » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:10 pm

try going here to see how its mounted and depth control lever on it
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=100435
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby Scrivet » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:27 pm

You'll also need to remove the bolt in the drawbar mount on each side, so the u shaped part will swivel up and down on the pins in the brackets mounted to the finals. The position/height of the u shaped drawbar will be controlled by the depth lever. Without removing those bolts, the drawbar won't move.

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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby Barnyard » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:11 pm

You also need to mount the plow in the second and fourth holes in the drawbar. I see you have it in the first and third holes. Check out all the pix located in the link I am providing to see how it should all look. http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim ... ow_001.htm
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby farmalllove » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:30 am

Has anyone seen the depth lever and hardware for sale anywhere recently? If not is there any other way to adjust this? I will get the plow in the right holes and remove the bolts from the drawbar mount.
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby MiCarl » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:59 am

You don't often see them.

When you pull the bolts Scrivet mentioned the draw bar will swing up and down. The depth lever controls it's height to set the plow depth.

You could get a ball park adjustment by running the left side of the tractor up on blocks (6" if that's how deep you want to plow). Then come up with a method to lock the draw bar in the position that levels the plow.

I can envision a way to do that with a large turn buckle which would allow you some tuning for soil conditions etc. once you're afield. The nice thing about the lever is you can adjust it on the fly.

Also check your wheel width, the rears need to be on the 2nd narrowest position if I recall. Check the 193 plow manual which will also show the depth control lever which might help you devise an alternate.
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby farmalllove » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:20 pm

I just found this page http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33299 not sure how well this would work though. Let me know your thoughts on this. Alternatively, I did find a lever for sale but it seems quite overpriced. https://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-Farmall-Cub ... 3731963411
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby Slim140 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:23 pm

farmalllove wrote:I did find a lever for sale but it seems quite overpriced.

For that price it should include the plow and part of the tractor.
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby farmalllove » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:45 pm

That's what I thought too but I might have to break down and buy it anyway if I can't find one locally, or on another site.
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby Slim140 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:51 pm

Put a want ad in The Vine, somebody probably has one they will part with for way cheaper.
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby farmalllove » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:55 pm

On this page http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33299 RAW in IA refers to not being sure if the implement mounting pads can endure the stress
"Another alternative, and maybe better, would be to affix a similar kind of linkage to one of the implement mounting pads. This way you could still control the depth of cut and once you have it, it would be set, then when you raised the plow with the touch control, you would only be lifting the back of the plow. You can see the two diamond shaped implement mounting pads (the rear one has bolts in it, and the front one has a bolt and spring attached to the lower hole) in the photo below, just below the rockshaft. I'm not sure that they were intended for the kind of stress that this could potentially put on it, so others may speak to it, but it seems reasonable that it should work."
Any idea if the pads can put up with the stress of mounting the mechanism from there?
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby MiCarl » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:28 pm

farmalllove wrote:I just found this page http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33299 not sure how well this would work though. Let me know your thoughts on this. Alternatively, I did find a lever for sale but it seems quite overpriced. https://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-Farmall-Cub ... 3731963411


So long as it doesn't bind up I don't see why it wouldn't work.

I'll have to think about it some more but off hand that looks like a better solution than the depth control lever. The lever can get in the way a bit mounting the tractor and can take quite a pull to raise with the plow in the ground.

UPDATE for your last post:

The depth control lever attaches to the upper implement mounting pad on the final drive, so presumably it's strong enough. The ones on the bell housing should be much stronger.
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Re: Field Plow Angle

Postby BullDAWG » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:42 pm

The only issue of using the touch control to adjust the depth of the plow is when you get to the end of a row and need to pick up the plow. You would have to take off the depth control and hook it to the rear rocker-shaft to lift the plow OR have an old hand style lift that came on cubs without touch control. I personally like that idea as with the hand lift you can also then lift the cultivators in the front with the touch control and the rear cultivators after you drive to the same end spot and hand lift the rear cultivators. Its like the poor mans version of the SA with dual touch control.
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