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How to remove this battery???

Postby umwolverines » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:07 pm

So me being a dummy I must have either reengaged the electrical system lever the last time I started it, or went to start the tractor one day, got distracted, and left it like that for it to die. So I picked up a 6/12 volt charger for it, but to my surprise it had an 8 volt battery. Obviously the 8 volt won't be good for the 6 volt system as the regulator is still a 6 volt so I wanted to get a 6 volt for it. The problem is, none of the sides of this battery box come off, and it appears the bolts that hold it on are on the inside at the bottom. How am I going to get this battery out?

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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby Barnyard » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:26 pm

Take the seat frame off.
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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:28 pm

The box should have a removable front panel. It’s either a non-standard box or installed backwards. Remove the seat frame to get the battery out.
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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby Cecil » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:15 pm

The box I installed backwards.

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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby Barnyard » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:20 pm

I don't think it is a factory box. It may not have a removable front (or in this case, back) panel.
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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby MiCarl » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:49 pm

It's not the correct box installed backward. At the rear right you can see the slot for the (-) battery cable to exit.

And putting an 8 volt battery in a 6 volt tractor isn't all that unusual. I know someone that has both an H and an M with 8 volt batteries. It's a lazy fix to get faster cranking from a system that isn't in good condition.
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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby Glen » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:14 pm

Hi,
Looks like the bolts I can see in the pic holding the seat frame on the Cub might come out easily, they look about new.
After you remove the seat frame, if the battery box has no removable front or back, you could use a battery lifting strap. It goes on the battery posts.
Below is a listing for one, just an example of one.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Battery-Carr ... 0301008005

If you buy one, the one I have only works facing one way, the battery posts are different sizes.

It look like in your pic it might be a LoBoy.
Below is a page from the 1965 Cub and LoBoy owner's manual showing the 6 volt battery at the lower left of the page.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-26.jpg

There should be 4 bolts holding the battery box on the Cub. They are inside the box.

Below is a listing at TM Tractor for a new battery box. You can look at the pics, it shows it with the removable front panel off.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/5721fp.htm
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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby Barnyard » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:45 pm

As I said in my first post, take the seat frame off. It should go well from there.
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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:38 pm

That box has obviously been through a lot of repairs. The eye bolt hanging on the front looks a lot like the ones that belong on the back. Maybe it is two boxes pieced together.

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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby birddog » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:09 pm

And putting an 8 volt battery in a 6 volt tractor isn't all that unusual. I know someone that has both an H and an M with 8 volt batteries. It's a lazy fix to get faster cranking from a system that isn't in good condition.


Not always. In my neck of the woods it's a way to help a tractor start better when it's 20 below zero and the gutters behind the cows are full!
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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:37 pm

On a tractor with a cutout an 8 volt battery may help, because a generator is capable of charging to a higher voltage than 6 volts. On one with a regulator though, it will never charge over 6 1/2 volts, unless the regulator is readjusted. If the regulator is not readjusted and the system only charges 6 volts, you lose some cranking capacity because the individual cells are smaller to get them in the case, and the cells never get fully charged.

If the battery will take a charge using your 6 volt charger go ahead and use it. Some of the modern smart chargers will not charge a totally dead battery, you may need one of the old style manual chargers.
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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby Dusty B » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:56 pm

Being the "frugal" person I am (bro-in-law said "cheap") made my lift strap w/a length of baling wire, twist a loop just large enough to go over the post - when you pull up it w/bind on the post! (one for each post). My fancy handle was a short length of corn cob w/the wire threaded thru it! Pics available if needed!! LOL ! Dusty B
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Re: How to remove this battery???

Postby dgrapes59 » Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:25 pm

Dusty B wrote:Being the "frugal" person I am (bro-in-law said "cheap") made my lift strap w/a length of baling wire, twist a loop just large enough to go over the post - when you pull up it w/bind on the post! (one for each post). My fancy handle was a short length of corn cob w/the wire threaded thru it! Pics available if needed!! LOL ! Dusty B

Wow, Dusty, your version sounds like it would be a "shocking" experience to use :shock: :wink:

Oops, I see this is an older thread :oops:
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