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Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby ctltmp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:54 am

Well I looked at a 47 low serial number cub last night. Everything per normal on it (small cracks in hood by the lights, bent up steering, and so on). Runs like a top though. 27 degrees and if fired right off. The good is it has a fairly new woods deck under it.

Question is this thing has 1/2 a steering wheel play in it. I'm used to a lot of play but never seen that much. I know you guys can't diagnose it "over the phone", but any thoughts on that??

I'm thinking of saving it's life since it's a first year low number.

Thanks in advance to all!
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby tst » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:44 am

many times the play can be adjusted by tightening the nut on the shaft where the steering arm is, pull cotter pin, loosen pinch bolt, tighten nut a little at a time till the play goes away

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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:56 am

Also, some of the play can be removed by adjusting the number of shims in the steering arm and adjusting the tie rod ends.
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby ctltmp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:23 am

On my 49 it had about 12 to 2 or so play and I was able to get most of it out with the adjustments you fellas mentioned, but I wasn't sure about that much. It also has some bent up and welded parts that I would want to replace for sure.

I know you can't say for sure, but any clue on a value for this thing? I've read on here that the mower is worth quite a bit, and the s/n is in the very low 1200's. I just hate like heck to see this one get in the wrong hand and not be saved as a part of history.
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby coppersmythe » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:26 am

:Dito: maybe a combination of the two and some looseness in the ti-rod ends. That Is a lot of "slop" , but not a deal breaker by no means . Coppersmythe. .....

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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby outdoors4evr » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:47 am

Don't try to fix it before you buy it. Use the steering to drive the price down. Play it like it has been ridden hard and has lots of hours on it. (Most likely very true)
Also, new tie rods and some reused guts to the steering box can't be too bad from a place like JP Tractor Salvage or TM Tractor Parts (forum sponsors) See their links at the bottom of this page.

Maybe add up the costs of new steering gear and tie rods (the big items). Print it out and propose to deduct that from the price being asked.
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby Stanton » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:54 am

ctltmp wrote:Well I looked at a 47 low serial number cub last night...I'm thinking of saving it's life since it's a first year low number...


Go save that low number Cub!! What serial number is it?
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby ctltmp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:17 am

Circle cub s/n is 1210.

With the mower is about a thousand unreasonable? I'll try to post a picture of the mower.

Momma bear is none too thrilled thought.
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby ctltmp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:23 am

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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby Shane N. » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:33 am

ctltmp wrote:Circle cub s/n is 1210.

With the mower is about a thousand unreasonable? I'll try to post a picture of the mower.

Momma bear is none too thrilled thought.

That's probably an average price.
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:38 am

Does it still have the fine mesh grill?
You’ve caught my attention with your post as I’m looking at a disassembled low number ‘47 myself.
This one is 14xx, no implements but the hand lifts are there. The last cub I bought to bring back is a non runner but not stuck ‘52 with a full set of cultivators and no missing parts. I had to replace a tire but that tractor was $400.
I’m having a hard time with $1G for a non runner with no hydraulics circle Cub or not. Asking myself how bad do I want this. I’d guess your doing the same.
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby Shane N. » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:47 am

Lt.Mike wrote:Does it still have the fine mesh grill?
You’ve caught my attention with your post as I’m looking at a disassembled low number ‘47 myself.
This one is 14xx, no implements but the hand lifts are there. The last cub I bought to bring back is a non runner but not stuck ‘52 with a full set of cultivators and no missing parts. I had to replace a tire but that tractor was $400.
I’m having a hard time with $1G for a non runner with no hydraulics circle Cub or not. Asking myself how bad do I want this. I’d guess your doing the same.
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The 4 digit I had was #1447, brother bought it for $350, got it running and I traded him a shotgun I had $350 in for it. This is how it was when I picked it up and I drove it on the trailer. The four digits aren't worth anymore than any other Cub truth be told. If they were a low 3 digit that's a different story.
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:28 am

Good luck finding a 3 digit cub. I’ve never seen one go up for sale or in anyone’s possession.
The heart and head do quite a bit of arguing over these things. ‘48’s and later are pretty easy to find for sale but the ‘47’s are getting harder to find and the ones 1xxx are harder yet.
The two mentioned here are among the first 1,000 built. Looking at it like that makes it sound pretty cool. More valuable? Only as a collectible.
A manual lift tractor wouldn’t be a choice, first or last for a working tractor for me.
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby ctltmp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:28 am

Nice for 350 and a shotgun! I sure wish I had that mower thats on yours. Been looking for a good one. I have use for it.

It does still have the original fine mesh grille.

I need it like a hole in the head, but having a hard time knowing it might never get fixed if the right person doesn't get ahold of it.
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Re: Half A Wheel Steering Play??

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:29 am

ctltmp wrote:Runs like a top though. 27 degrees and if fired right off.

At $1000, I believe I’d jump on it.
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