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Missing detent ball

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Missing detent ball

Postby Arkansawyer cub » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:34 pm

Awhile back I bought my grandpa’s Cub at the estate auction. It is mainly used for gardening in the spring but this year when I got on it it would not go into first or reverse gear. Garden needed planting so it got put on back burner but recently I got quarantined so I had time to tinker with it. After lots of online research I determined that the detent ball was probably the culprit so I took off the shifter and darn it, I was right. So I drained the trans hoping that it would come out with the fluid. It did not. So I have tried fishing around with a magnet with no luck. I took off the pto cover hoping to find something but nothing. So I guess my question is will it hurt anything to leave it in there or does anyone have any ideas on how to find the little devil? Sorry for the long post just trying to give as much info as possible.

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Re: Missing detent ball

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:41 pm

Flush the transmission well with kerosene. It probably needs it anyway. Then use a flashlight and your magnet to try to find it. If not, don’t worry about it. It may have gone out with a previous lube change. New ones are available from TM Tractor Parts, a forum sponsor.
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Re: Missing detent ball

Postby Gary Dotson » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:17 am

There's a good chance it's not in there, at all. The only way that ball can come out is if someone (grandpa) had it apart, in the past. As often, as not, when the shaft is slid to the rear, the spring launches the ball into orbit. It's probably in the vicinity of the International Space Station.

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Re: Missing detent ball

Postby Rick Prentice » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:08 am

Just for grins??? I've had it happen to me before. You'll need a pencil sized magnet and slide it into the shifter hole horizontally. That ball can move inside the hole towards the front and seem as though it's not even in there.

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Re: Missing detent ball

Postby Gary Dotson » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:17 am

Good point, Rick, it sure can.

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Re: Missing detent ball

Postby Arkansawyer cub » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:02 pm

Thanks a lot guys. Finally got a chance to run a magnet inside the shifter hole and found where the little guy was hiding. I really appreciate the help!!!

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Re: Missing detent ball

Postby halftonstude » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:34 am

When I tore the transmission apart on my ‘52 I found a detent ball and an ear from one of the shift forks. Both forks were good and all the balls were in place so it looked like the PO did some work and left those parts in there...
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