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Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby seamajor » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:57 pm

Have you ever done this?
On a whim, my son and I decided to try a pulloff between our cub and our Deere 1025r. In 2WD, the cub won. With the 1025r in Low Range 4WD, it was the opposite. It's a short video...take a look.

https://youtu.be/qjoDJVIGgF4
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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Eugene » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:12 pm

Tell the Cub driver to depress the right brake pedal to transfer some of the traction to the left wheel.

Try again.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby seamajor » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:36 pm

Eugene wrote:Tell the Cub driver to depress the right brake pedal to transfer some of the traction to the left wheel.

Try again.



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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Eugene » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:41 pm

Cub also just a bit under full throttle.

Quick look on the internet. Appears both tractors are about the same shipping weight. The JD with loader should weigh a couple hundered pounds more.
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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby k hutchins » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:45 pm

Full lug tires vs turf type tires probably help. I also agree with split braking, if one starts to spin, brake it down to transfer power.
Why is there never enough time to do the job right, but always enough time to do it over. :?:

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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby seamajor » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:25 pm

k hutchins wrote:Full lug tires vs turf type tires probably help. I also agree with split braking, if one starts to spin, brake it down to transfer power.

Hadn't thought about that aspect. The R3's on the JD have some lug, but not like the Ag tires.

Options for the next test:

Remove loader on JD
Apply split brakes on cub
We could fill the rear tires on both with something like RimGuard as well. But this is not likely.
Any other thoughts?
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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Eugene » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:30 pm

I would try the pulls again, tractors as is. Might try the pulls on grass and then again on gravel/asphault driveway.
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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Urbish » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:55 am

:thumbsup:
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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Nautiluscont » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:17 pm

Nice video! Thanks for Sharing.

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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Barebones » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:58 am

And, nothing broke!

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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Steve Butram » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:48 am

I own a compact utility tractor (CUT) and several cubs. The CUT wouldn't work well dirt plowing but the Cub will turnover soil all day. The CUT with Diesel and hydro static transmission will mow all day and burn 1/2 the fuel to mow the yard. And I'm able can change out attachments in minutes not hours

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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Gary Dotson » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:08 am

I agree with Steve, my Cubs can't begin to do the tasks my Kubotas do (mowing, tilling ect.) but the Cub will do much better with the moldboard plow or cultivators. That is the sort of work they were configured for. You really can't compare them in a pull-off.

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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Eugene » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:21 am

Gary Dotson wrote:You really can't compare them in a pull-off.
True. But it's kinda neat watching the videos.
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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Gary S. » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:18 pm

I'd be real surprised if you could buy a used 11 year old compact tractor complete with mower and snow plow for 5K and have it do it's job for 60 years with minimal maintenance. But that's what our Cub has done. Couple of front tires,brakes,some spark plugs,oil,antifreeze,batteries,a mag replaced with a distributor,clutch and now ready for some rears. Dad's 600 dollar investment is still paying off even out lasting him,I'm sure it will become his grandson's "problem"

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Re: Pulloff: Cub vs Modern subcompact

Postby Clemsonfor » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:47 pm

seamajor wrote:
k hutchins wrote:Full lug tires vs turf type tires probably help. I also agree with split braking, if one starts to spin, brake it down to transfer power.

Hadn't thought about that aspect. The R3's on the JD have some lug, but not like the Ag tires.

Options for the next test:

Remove loader on JD
Apply split brakes on cub
We could fill the rear tires on both with something like RimGuard as well. But this is not likely.
Any other thoughts?

You can use wind shield washer fluid or water and antifreeze. They won't hold much I think something like 7 gallons each. My Yanmar has the same size tires and there filled with windshield washer fluid


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