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Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby feg7846 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:48 pm

I have been through 2 sediment bowls recently and both failed within a week. Can anyone recommend one that they have had good results with? Thank you

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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Eugene » Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:58 pm

Been there, done that several times. Gave up on sediment bowl assemblies.

Ball valve, inline fuel filter.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:51 pm

What failed with yours?

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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby SamsFarm » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:10 pm

I do not know who made them for IH but the originals would get my vote.

My opinion is that they work good with little service.

You can visually see when they need cleaned.

Occasionally you might need a new cork gasket!
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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Waif » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:00 pm

Ball valve replacing the unit solved my sediment bowl issue on one tractor after repeated attempts to stop it from leaking..

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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Barnyard » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:19 pm

I use the ones from Rural King with no problem. In line filters are not an option here.
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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Eugene » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:26 pm

Barnyard wrote:In line filters are not an option here.
Explain what you mean by not an option here.

They work great. Slow fuel flow, easy replacement.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Barnyard » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:38 pm

Eugene wrote:
Barnyard wrote:In line filters are not an option here.
Explain what you mean by not an option here.

They work great. Slow fuel flow, easy replacement.

It means I am not a fan of them and will not use them, I am not say not to use them, only saying I will not.
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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Glen » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:55 pm

Hi,
The new assembly from TM Tractor probably works good, but I haven't bought one there.
They look like the original style.
Below is their listing.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/314fp.htm

Case IH might sell one also, but I don't know what they have now, the last time I asked they were sort of expensive.

If you buy a new strainer, or have an old one, sometimes they leak gas at the shutoff handle.
The nut that the handle goes through has a packing in it, and needs a slight tightening, if it leaks.
Don't overtighten it, it can make the handle hard to turn.

Maybe the original strainer can be repaired.

The original uses a metal pipe between the strainer and the carburetor, with no filter in the pipe.
TM Tractor sells new gas lines also.

They have said on here, if you put in a modern in line filter, be sure it is made for a gravity feed fuel system.
A filter for use with a gas pump can slow the flow, and make problems. :)

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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Magnum » Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:39 am

I also like the original look of a sediment bowl. I have a ball valve on a super m it works fine but not my preference . I put a new bowl on a cub and it leaked , only in the on or engine run position. So I changed the o ring in it and that seemed to work. I may have just gotten lucky but I'll take it.

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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby inairam » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:54 pm

Barnyard wrote:
Eugene wrote:
Barnyard wrote:In line filters are not an option here.
Explain what you mean by not an option here.

They work great. Slow fuel flow, easy replacement.

It means I am not a fan of them and will not use them, I am not say not to use them, only saying I will not.


I agree. I think inline filters cause more problems than they solve. The sediment bowl and the filter on top do a better job.

As far as the sediment bowl I have more issues with the ones that have the butterfly handle as opposed to the ones with the bent handle. If the buttery flow ones work they work fine for a long time. if they do not work when they go in they never really work. I think the bent handle ones are harder to turn which may be more packing around the valve stem.

I also have a harder time getting a seal with the fuel line with butterfly ones with the adapter. That may just be me.
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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:01 pm

I like the looks of the original sediment bowl but they are prone to leaking and easily clogging if the tank is less than perfect. It’s also a little tough to turn off the valve.
The only one that is trouble free is my Lo-Boy that has a brass elbow straight off the tank that runs into a glass cleanable fuel filter then there’s an inline fuel shutoff valve that’s easy to get at. All the debris, even bigger flakes that would clog a sediment bowl easily pass thru the elbow to be caught in the filter.
I’m always considering converting the others to this setup.
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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Nelson 634 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:17 pm

Leaking? Leaking where?
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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby SamsFarm » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:14 pm

There is really only 2 places to leak excluding the threaded connections.

Either the valve packing or the glass bowl.

Those cork gaskets get hard over time.

I can not imagine a new quality (US made) cork gasket leaking, but the possibility does exist!

I have saw the threaded nut part that holds the glass bowl get rusty or built up with crud and get hard to turn.

Adding a lubricant to the threads of the fuel bowl nut helps some!

Good luck!

Most inline filters you can not see whats going on inside them, and most are not serviceable either!

But hey, to each their own!
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Re: Best or most reliable fuel sediment bowl for cub

Postby Bill Hudson » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:35 pm

I use the original sediment bowl and have for years (since I learned about this upgrade) used this modified inline fuel filter http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=38266 with absolutely no fuel starvation issues. In addition, a few years later I added this to the fuel filtering equation http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=98978 and have not experienced any problems.

Overkill? Absolutely. However, the bottom line is each of these filters can be easily cleaned and reinstalled and used for a loooong time.

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