This site uses cookies to maintain login information on FarmallCub.Com. Click the X in the banner upper right corner to close this notice. For more information on our privacy policy, visit this link:
Privacy Policy

NEW REGISTERED MEMBERS: Be sure to check your SPAM/JUNK folders for the activation email.

Connecting Rod Conundrum

The Cub Club -- Questions and answers to all of your Cub related issues.
Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
Old Man
Posts: 12
Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:59 am
Zip Code: 16666

Connecting Rod Conundrum

Postby Old Man » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:00 am

On breaking down the engine of my Cub I found rods #1, 2 and 3 marked and oriented toward the camshaft side as expected. The #4 rod is marked with 4 irregular hammer marks( ?) and 4 irregular file marks and oriented toward the magneto side of the engine. Based on the serial # and casting dates my Cub is a 1950 model with a 1952 engine. I suspect the work of a shade tree mechanic, like me, in the distant past. On rebuild should I orient the #4 rod and piston as found or should it be rotated toward the camshaft side of the engine? TIA

7322E78D-EFFA-4D8B-89F4-BA03796EA2CA.jpeg

tst
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5214
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:08 pm
Zip Code: 12514
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Connecting Rod Conundrum

Postby tst » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:01 pm

#s face cam, on another note is your crank ok ?? the bearing looks nasty, rod and cap need to be matched also as they are machined together, any doubts replace that rod if they are not matched

Old Man
Posts: 12
Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:59 am
Zip Code: 16666

Re: Connecting Rod Conundrum

Postby Old Man » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:14 pm

The crank journal measures within specs but exhibits significant scoring near its center. The other journals appear to be in good shape. To do a thorough rebuild I’m certain that the crank should be turned. However, I only use my Cub to plow snow and to take an occasional ride on a sunny day. If I were to just install new bearings, along with valves, guides, springs etc, what would the likely prognosis be?

User avatar
SONNY
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 4113
Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:26 pm
Zip Code: 61722

Re: Connecting Rod Conundrum

Postby SONNY » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:31 pm

it would last forever with light use. On the rod marks----better face them like you found them! ---someone wasnt thinking when they marked them. just my.02, you could get a good used rod and face it the right way for sure.

tst
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5214
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:08 pm
Zip Code: 12514
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Connecting Rod Conundrum

Postby tst » Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:20 pm

use plastic gauge to measure the clearance that will tell you if it has a chance, or use a micrometer on it on 4 spots to make sure the journal is round, I have my doubts by the way that bearing looks

SamsFarm
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 1853
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:21 pm
Zip Code: 44410
Tractors Owned: 1968 Cub Fast Hitch
LF-1 Platform Carrier
144 Cultivators
L-F194 Plow(s)
F38 Disk
L-F3 Spring Tooth Harrow
CS Bell No. 60 Grain Mill on a unmodified Fast Hitch Disk hitch prong
Home Made Fast Hitch Potato Plow
54A Blade

Couple 1948 Cubs
172 Runner Planter
53 Fertilizer
Cub-3 Field Cultivator
Cub-189 Two Way Plow
Cub-22 Sickle Bar Mower
Mechanical Transplanter with side mount barrel (needs a fast hitch adapter) :)

Misc Belly Mowers

Wish List
International 100 Fast Hitch Blade
Mott Fast Hitch Flail Mower

Wish Wish Wish List
Fast Hitch Rotary Hoe
4E hammer mill
Location: Ne Ohio

Re: Connecting Rod Conundrum

Postby SamsFarm » Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:37 pm

Is your crankshaft gauling make the journal bigger than normal like material from the bearing has attached itself to the crank, or is the crank journal gauling like grooves?

If it bigger than normal, then you better clean it off with some fine paper abrasive maybe like 220 grit being extra careful not to take away from the crank metal!

Or have a shop clean it up!

If that journal (or any other) is too big, you will trash your new bearing instantly! :(
1968 Cub Fast-Hitch

Nelson 634
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 308
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 9:57 pm
Zip Code: 22958
Tractors Owned: 5 Cubs
1952 100
1960 460 Utility
Location: Central Va.

Re: Connecting Rod Conundrum

Postby Nelson 634 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:56 pm

Pictures! The best way to explain what you have as a problem is good quality pictures. You will have a greater chance of getting the help you need as well help others who don't have your knowledge or others here on this forum. The pictures you've posted are good of the marks for location. I would suggest pictures of bearing journals and the crank shaft at least.
Walter

Clemsonfor
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 1118
Joined: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:14 pm
Zip Code: 29848
Tractors Owned: Yanmar YM2000
Yanmar YM186 (non running)
1952 Farmall Cub
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Greenwood County SC

Re: Connecting Rod Conundrum

Postby Clemsonfor » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:17 pm

SamsFarm wrote:Is your crankshaft gauling make the journal bigger than normal like material from the bearing has attached itself to the crank, or is the crank journal gauling like grooves?

If it bigger than normal, then you better clean it off with some fine paper abrasive maybe like 220 grit being extra careful not to take away from the crank metal!

Or have a shop clean it up!

If that journal (or any other) is too big, you will trash your new bearing instantly! :(

220 is not that fine especially when talking crank journals. Heck that's not even fine if your talking paint prep!!! Visible scratches if you sand with 220 and paint.

SamsFarm
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 1853
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:21 pm
Zip Code: 44410
Tractors Owned: 1968 Cub Fast Hitch
LF-1 Platform Carrier
144 Cultivators
L-F194 Plow(s)
F38 Disk
L-F3 Spring Tooth Harrow
CS Bell No. 60 Grain Mill on a unmodified Fast Hitch Disk hitch prong
Home Made Fast Hitch Potato Plow
54A Blade

Couple 1948 Cubs
172 Runner Planter
53 Fertilizer
Cub-3 Field Cultivator
Cub-189 Two Way Plow
Cub-22 Sickle Bar Mower
Mechanical Transplanter with side mount barrel (needs a fast hitch adapter) :)

Misc Belly Mowers

Wish List
International 100 Fast Hitch Blade
Mott Fast Hitch Flail Mower

Wish Wish Wish List
Fast Hitch Rotary Hoe
4E hammer mill
Location: Ne Ohio

Re: Connecting Rod Conundrum

Postby SamsFarm » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:41 pm

Clemsonfor wrote:220 is not that fine especially when talking crank journals. Heck that's not even fine if your talking paint prep!!! Visible scratches if you sand with 220 and paint.


Well.......

If the soft bearing metal is built up on the hardened surface of the crank journal and you want to spend all week getting it wittled down, feel free to use 400, 600, etc, etc. Use what YOU feel comfortable with!

This is ONLY if the metal has built up on the journal from the bearing!

If your not comfortable doing it, then dont do it! :)
1968 Cub Fast-Hitch


  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Farmall Cub”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Gary Dotson and 13 guests