1950 Cub in Cool, CA

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Crimson Tim » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:28 am

Stoffregen Motorsports wrote:On a side note, I understand that the gearbox filling with water is a problem on these tractors. Mine was when I tore into it. I feel like water drips down the shifter stick into the trans, and a simple rubber boot fit snugly over the stick would at least help with this problem. Has anyone ever tried this or found a suitable boot? If so, I'd love to hear about that. If not, maybe I'll start the search for a proper boot.


While the link Don provided is a more elegant fix, the *traditional* fix is an inverted bucket over the shifter when parked. :)

Seems like the tiniest CV boot you can find might be close to doing the job.

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:32 am

I seem to remember someone using a shifter boot from a VW Beetle. But, I won’t bet money on that memory. :D
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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Stoffregen Motorsports » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:35 am

Don McCombs wrote:http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=99911


That is a very elegant solution indeed. If I get time to machine some parts, this mod will make the list.

Thanks

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Stoffregen Motorsports » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:38 am

Don McCombs wrote:I seem to remember someone using a shifter boot from a VW Beetle. But, I won’t bet money on that memory. :D

[/quote]

While the link Don provided is a more elegant fix, the *traditional* fix is an inverted bucket over the shifter when parked. :)

Seems like the tiniest CV boot you can find might be close to doing the job.[/quote]

I remember seeing a simple inverted cup shaped boot on another truck shifter somewhere. Most old car and truck shifters were similar to this and since trucks did not always have an interior, the shifter ball would show through the floor. It was common for water to get into the trans in trucks too.

I'll search the cobwebs of my brain while at work today. I'm sure something will come up.

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Stoffregen Motorsports » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:48 am

Quick search found something similar to what I was thinking. I searched "1939 Ford shifter boot" and came up with a number of Ford tractor boots that look like they would work.

https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/C5NN ... t_4453.htm
https://www.tractorpartsasap.com/gear-s ... 21482.html

You could even use one of these and cut the lower flange off.

https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/trucks ... shift-boot
https://upcarparts.com/black-rubber-gea ... -car-truck
https://www.ecklers.com/chevy-or-gmc-tr ... 148-1.html

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:11 am

Stoffregen Motorsports wrote:
Don McCombs wrote:http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=99911


That is a very elegant solution indeed. If I get time to machine some parts, this mod will make the list.

Thanks

The later Cub Parts Catalog calls out an o-ring for the shift lever. It is a slightly different size than what George used (1/2 x 5/8 x 1/16). The location is hard to figure out from the catalog's drawing. But it appears to go in the same place George used. IH didn't change any of the related parts, just added the o-ring.

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Dale Finch » Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:22 pm

This was my solution...a tad more elegant than the 5 gal bucket!!
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=106683&hilit=Shifter+rain+cap
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In fact, I had brought a tractor home yesterday, in order to take it to the CubOlina Cubfest tomorrow, and tropical storm Elsa was on its way. The tractor normally lives under cover, but sitting on the trailer in my driveway, it was gonna get soaked. So I grabbed a couple tennis ball cans, cut and taped them together, and plopped it over the shifter...just in time! :D
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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Dale Finch » Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:31 pm

Poor thing is soaked...but at least he got a bath!!
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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Tractor Whisperer » Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:51 pm

Hello Stoffregen,
I’m in Plymouth, CA. We’re almost neighbors. I bought two basket case Cubs in the spring and got them both running for the Independence Day parade this year. On my first start up on one, you might have heard the growl from the gear box over in Cool. I flushed out the gear box and scooped out the crud through the PTO cover. Refilled with new 85-140 and it’s not silent but much better than it was. It will hold me until I can tear into it, probably in the winter.

Have fun with your Cub.
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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Stoffregen Motorsports » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:32 pm

I like the ingenuity, but I am definitely looking for a more elegant solution.

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Stoffregen Motorsports » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:33 pm

Tractor Whisperer wrote:Hello Stoffregen,
I’m in Plymouth, CA. We’re almost neighbors. I bought two basket case Cubs in the spring and got them both running for the Independence Day parade this year. On my first start up on one, you might have heard the growl from the gear box over in Cool. I flushed out the gear box and scooped out the crud through the PTO cover. Refilled with new 85-140 and it’s not silent but much better than it was. It will hold me until I can tear into it, probably in the winter.

Have fun with your Cub.


Your gearbox made that noise? I thought it was the El Dorado mystery booms. (look it up)

Isn't there a truck and tractor show down near you every year? I thought I went once, but can't remember exactly where it was.

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Clemsonfor » Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:07 pm

Dale Finch wrote:Poor thing is soaked...but at least he got a bath!!
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I saw your tractor today on Farmall51's YouTube video he posted today from the Cubolina Festival.

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Stoffregen Motorsports » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:29 am

Hi guys. Back again.

The Cub project came to a halt when it finally became driveable, but I need some advice before I can resume work on it.

I know that the magneto drive gears are off a tooth, and that is on the to-do list, but in the meantime, I want to buy a new (cheap) carburetor. Right now, it will only run with the choke half on, which means a clog in the carb somewhere. I have had the carb apart and cleaned in my ultrasonic cleaner, but there's still something going on there. My solution - buy one of those $40 Amazon carburetors and give it a try.

Here's a whole page full of them - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=251234R91+Ca ... nb_sb_noss

If this were 1995 again, there would not be such a thing as a $40 replacement carb, so I would be forced to give another shot at rebuilding mine, or buy another expensive carb from one of the great parts supplers, but we do have these cheap parts available and I want to give it a shot. Worst case, I'm out $40. Best case, it works flawlessly. Middle of the road case, it works for a while and then is garbage.

So the question is - have any of you bought and/or used a cheap Amazon carb?

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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Don McCombs » Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:37 am

Last I checked, the Chinese carburetors were about $28 on eBay. That included shipping. I wouldn’t pay any more than that for one. Make sure you adjust the float properly before installing and adjust the governor linkage after installation.
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Re: 1950 Cub in Cool, CA

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:44 am

You have probably already been through all this, but before you replace the carb, remove the fuel line at the inlet, and make SURE you have good flow TO the carb.

You may just remove the main jet, which is easier, but the first gas that comes out is just what is in the bowl. Perhaps remove it with the sediment bowl shutoff closed, THEN open the valve and see if you have a good stream.

As I said, you've probably done this, but even for only $40, it would be worth a try eliminating everything BEFORE the carb. JMHO! :hattip:

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