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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:33 pm

You should be able to read the stamped engine number, slightly above where Barnyard said to look for the date code. With that, we can do a "reasonableness" check against the possible 11303 serial number.

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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Pap » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:21 am

:tractor: Thanks Glen. Sounds like you have been around these things a little bit. It sounds like I need to learn a lot and looks like I have come to the right place to do that. Thanks for the info.
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Pap » Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:37 pm

:help: It is very hard to make out but it looks like to me that the engine number is 11707 not 11303. And it is very hard to see but it looks to me that it has the letters. CODM in front of the numbers. I hope y'all can help me with getting the serial #.
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:44 pm

That would be FCUBM in front of the numbers. Can you post a photo of the stamped numbers on the engine?

http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_003.htm
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Pap » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:39 pm

Hey Don. I have a picture but I don't know how to post it. It's not easy to read . Maybe I can figure out how to post it.
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Pap » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:46 pm

IMG_20210610_175013680_HDR.jpg
It is hard to see.
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Glen » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:55 pm

Hi,
Raymond Durban's database shows that by Cub serial number 11303 there were several hundred numbers difference between the tractor serial number, and the engine serial number.
The engine serial number is not the same number as the tractor serial number by the end of 1947.
Cub serial number 11348 was the 1st 1948 Cub, the serial number list shows.

All the Cub engine serial numbers I have seen were easy to see, no marks like yours has.

Below is info from TM Tractor showing where the date codes are. :)

http://www.tmtractor.com/id/castdate_loc.htm

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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Pap » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:59 pm

It looks like something or somebody dinged it up pretty good. Thanks for your help. I will look for more casting numbers.
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby tst » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:04 pm

I bet they used a pry bar to move the hydraulic lines and scratched it up

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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Pap » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:22 pm

I don't know. I was told that my uncle rebuilt it around 25 years ago. I do know he was real rough with it. He broke the front axle and kind of put it back together. I got a lot of work & TLC to do.
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:41 pm

The prefix for the engine number should be FCUBM. I wonder if the 11303 written on the shop manual page was written there as the engine number. As banged up as the engine number is, could it be 11303?

Based on Raymond's database, engine 11707 would have probably been a tractor around 11080. 11303 would have probably been paired up with something several hundred less than that. In any case, serial 11303 seems too high to go with engine 11707.

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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:40 pm

Definitely looks to me like 11707.
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby SamsFarm » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:20 am

Looks like 11707 to me as well
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby Pap » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:30 am

I agree with all of y'all. It looks like 11707 to me. Maybe my uncle just took a guess at 11303. So if it is 11707 does anybody know what the tractor serial could be ?
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Re: No serial number plate

Postby indy61 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:07 am

I would go with 11303 for the tractor serial #. I can't read the engine serial #. You said the engine block casting date was 10*16*Q?


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