Touch Control Hydraulic fluid??

[Dale Finch]

I am getting ready to split a cub for a rear seal, and thus will be draining the hydraulics. I will not have enough HyTran to refill it when finished, so I called my "local IH" (New Holland!) dealer about 30 miles away to see if they had a 5 gal jug for sale. They said they have changed to Viscosity Brand fluid called (I think?) All Traction ($78.74/5gal), but he claimed it was "exactly the same".

I have always used HyTran, figuring it was worth the extra $$, but now I guess I will have to make a decision...not on WHETHER to use a substitute, but WHICH substitute to buy. So my question to the group is which brand do most use, that is easily available (without shipping)?

I know it should "meet standard MS-1209", but that covers a lot of brands. I have locally available NAPA (and other auto parts stores), Tractor Supply, Northern Tool, Agri-Supply (not quite as close, but OK), Walmart...

I know I will get a lot of answers, but looking for a consensus! Thanks!!

[Dale Finch]

Finally found someone online (Hoober.com) who had 5gal jugs...$31+ shipping!! Gotta find something locally available.

[Mht]

I’ve used the agri supply brand and the oil from tractor supply and have had no problems from either. I’ve never used the actual hy tran oil

[indy61]

I think B-6 was the International Harvester spec for the Touch Control fluid. Anything meeting that should be fine.
Tractor Supply 5 gal is $39.99....NAPA 5 gal is $83.49

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/produ ... ulic-fluid
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NHF85405

[Clemsonfor]

Personally I'd buy the TSC premium fluid and just don't worry about it.

[muleboss]

I have used regular ATF for years and have never had a problem.

[NJ Farmer]

I’m sure you have a NAPA near by….the sell it and if not in stock can order it for you.

NJ Farmer

[Eugene]

I’ve used the agri supply brand and the oil from tractor supply and have had no problems from either. I’ve never used the actual hy tran oil

Same here. I get mine from the local farm and ranch store. 1/2 mile from house, thus no shipping

[Jim Becker]

Viscosity Oil Company made (makes?) Hy-Tran for IH and Case-IH.

[Dale Finch]

Viscosity Oil Company made (makes?) Hy-Tran for IH and Case-IH.

Yes, that is what the New Holland guy said...they had to call it something else, even though they had supposedly already been making the HYTRAN labeled fluid for IH.

I don't know if they were required to change the exact formulation, but figured this might be the time to find a GOOD equivalent, at a substantially lower price.

I just checked AgriSupply online, and they have quite an assortment, though several "flavors" are out of stock, and, at least online, do not say specifically that they meet MS-1209 Specs. NAPA or TSC would be the easiest/closest sources. I'm already getting my 90wt gear oil and 30wt engine oil from NAPA.

[Clemsonfor]

Agrisupply at the location I go to has plenty in stock, maybe not every brand they had but they certainly have one that meets the IH spec for Hy Tran.

Like I said you can get the TSC brand Traveller Universal Tractor fluid and it meets the spec. The cheaper universal fluids there don't meet the HybTran Spec but the Premium Traveller does. Get your oil there as well it's about the cheapest place for their brand oil. Cheaper than Walmart oil when you buy it in 2.5 gallon jugs. I'm probably going to get 2 gallons of gear oil there soon cause it's on sale and about the best price you can find anywhere.

[Stanton]

Viscosity Oil Company made (makes?) Hy-Tran for IH and Case-IH.

Yes, that is what the New Holland guy said...they had to call it something else, even though they had supposedly already been making the HYTRAN labeled fluid for IH.

I don't know if they were required to change the exact formulation, but figured this might be the time to find a GOOD equivalent, at a substantially lower price.

I just checked AgriSupply online, and they have quite an assortment, though several "flavors" are out of stock, and, at least online, do not say specifically that they meet MS-1209 Specs. NAPA or TSC would be the easiest/closest sources. I'm already getting my 90wt gear oil and 30wt engine oil from NAPA.

Dale, I've been using TSC Universal Premium Hydraulic fluid for years now and haven't had any issues with my Touch Control. Also use their 80W-90 gear oil.

Don't forget to order several oil filters while you're at it and have them ship to your TSC store (no shipping charge): https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/tisco-oil-filter-376373r91?cm_vc=-10005

[Super A]

Viscosity Oil Company made (makes?) Hy-Tran for IH and Case-IH.

Yes, that is what the New Holland guy said...they had to call it something else, even though they had supposedly already been making the HYTRAN labeled fluid for IH.

I don't know if they were required to change the exact formulation, but figured this might be the time to find a GOOD equivalent, at a substantially lower price.

I just checked AgriSupply online, and they have quite an assortment, though several "flavors" are out of stock, and, at least online, do not say specifically that they meet MS-1209 Specs. NAPA or TSC would be the easiest/closest sources. I'm already getting my 90wt gear oil and 30wt engine oil from NAPA.

Mastertran is/was Hy Tran, for the New Holland side of Case New Holland. Same oil.

According to the IH Group on FB, per Ken Updike, Viscosity Oil did make all Hy Tran for caseIH. This year caseIH switched manufacturers to Shell for the North American market. Viscosity still makes Hy-Tran for caseIH's overseas markets. They call the new oil Hy Tran Premium now. Supposed to be 100% backward compatible with all the earlier versions. A lot of guys say it smells bad now. (I think they should make ladies' perfume that smells like the original Hy-Tran.)

(Also Hy-Tran is a brand name. You can't buy it at NAPA, Tractor Supply, etc.)

Al

[Denny Clayton]

Personally I'd buy the TSC premium fluid and just don't worry about it.

[ScottyD'sdad]

Personally I'd buy the TSC premium fluid and just don't worry about it.

Not many years ago, you'd be tarred and feathered, for making a statement like that, on this forum. I always used the TSC fluid, but didn't dare to mention it on the forum.

Ed