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Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby BearCat459 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:50 pm

I got a question about a trailer being pulled by a cub.
I got a 1948 Farmall cub and a 6x12 trailer. I was wondering if the cub could pull this trailer through a parade and be ok. I can lift the trailer at the hitch by myself and move it if needed. I was more concerned about the tongue weight and the movement of people on the trailer if it would hurt the final drives. Thanks. Ps I do not have a swinging drawbar only the normal drawbar.

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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby inairam » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:32 pm

You can pull far more than you can stop, I pull hay wagons that size on flat ground. Wagons do not have the issue of tongue weight like trailers.
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby ricky racer » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:35 pm

Only if the area you intend to pull the trailer is perfectly flat. Remember, it doesn't take many people on your trailer to out weight your Cub. Heaven forbid you have to stop on a hill. :oops: Cub brakes won't work with a Cub going backwards. Its hard to hold a Cub on a hill by itself let alone with a trailer with people on it. Be careful!!! :shock:
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Eugene » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:51 pm

True what the guys are saying about the Cub's brakes.

Folks do pull trailers with Cubs in parades. Use caution and think about accident liability.
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Rick Spivey » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:07 am

It's never about how much trailer you can pull, it's always about how much trailer you can stop. I think you catch our drift.
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Urbish » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:27 am

ricky racer wrote:Only if the area you intend to pull the trailer is perfectly flat. Remember, it doesn't take many people on your trailer to out weight your Cub. Heaven forbid you have to stop on a hill. :oops: Cub brakes won't work with a Cub going backwards. Its hard to hold a Cub on a hill by itself let alone with a trailer with people on it. Be careful!!! :shock:


I'm with Ricky on this one. If you have to down-shift while going up hill, you're going to be in a very dangerous situation for you, your riders, and the spectators.
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Lt.Mike » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:00 am

inairam wrote:You can pull far more than you can stop, I pull hay wagons that size on flat ground. Wagons do not have the issue of tongue weight like trailers.

You can pull in second gear and can throttle down leaving it in gear for engine braking.
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:33 pm

Lt.Mike wrote:
inairam wrote:You can pull far more than you can stop, I pull hay wagons that size on flat ground. Wagons do not have the issue of tongue weight like trailers.

You can pull in second gear and can throttle down leaving it in gear for engine braking.

Its a parade, I would imagine he could leave it in first.

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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Lt.Mike » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:46 pm

Clemsonfor wrote:
Lt.Mike wrote:
inairam wrote:You can pull far more than you can stop, I pull hay wagons that size on flat ground. Wagons do not have the issue of tongue weight like trailers.

You can pull in second gear and can throttle down leaving it in gear for engine braking.

Its a parade, I would imagine he could leave it in first.

Yup just gotta go easy letting the clutch out ;)
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby SamsFarm » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:12 pm

BearCat459 wrote:I got a question about a trailer being pulled by a cub.
I got a 1948 Farmall cub and a 6x12 trailer. I was wondering if the cub could pull this trailer through a parade and be ok. I can lift the trailer at the hitch by myself and move it if needed. I was more concerned about the tongue weight and the movement of people on the trailer if it would hurt the final drives. Thanks. Ps I do not have a swinging drawbar only the normal drawbar.


Doubtful you will have tongue weight that exceeds the cubs capicity.

My owners manual says a fast hitch cub can carry a 400 pound payload on a carryall!

I pull 8x16 hay wagons (no tongue weight on a hay wagon) up and down my road which is a state route (relatively level) with upwards of 150 bales on them in 3rd gear, wide open throttle. That could be 6 to 7000+ pounds of hay!

I might not recommend that if there is much of a hill though! :)
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby inairam » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:40 am

Lt.Mike wrote:
inairam wrote:You can pull far more than you can stop, I pull hay wagons that size on flat ground. Wagons do not have the issue of tongue weight like trailers.

You can pull in second gear and can throttle down leaving it in gear for engine braking.


That is what I do in the fields with space. But when you have people on the trailer, other tractors, and people on the side you can run out of room fast.

My point is in a parade it is more important the worry about what you can safely stop than if you are going the break the finals.
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Matt Kirsch » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:11 am

How about instead of assuming that he will be hauling people on this trailer, we ask what he will be hauling on this trailer?

For all we know it could just be a "VOTE FOR REYNOLDS FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER" sign.

Does the trailer have electric brakes? It would not be a huge deal to wire up a brake controller and a 12V battery for manually applied trailer brakes.

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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Lt.Mike » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:24 am

Matt Kirsch wrote:How about instead of assuming that he will be hauling people on this trailer, we ask what he will be hauling on this trailer?

For all we know it could just be a "VOTE FOR REYNOLDS FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER" sign.

Does the trailer have electric brakes? It would not be a huge deal to wire up a brake controller and a 12V battery for manually applied trailer brakes.

Electric brakes with a brake controller is definitely the ticket !
All my brake controllers have two adjustments to set how hard the brakes are applied and more importantly how aggressively.
Don't want to send anyone flying. :wink:
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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Matt Kirsch » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:26 am

Likely you will need to use the manual slide to apply the brakes due to the slow speed (lack of momentum for the controller to sense) and lack of a brake light signal (to tell the controller you've activated the brakes).

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Re: Max size trailer to pull with a cub.

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:08 am

Matt Kirsch wrote:How about instead of assuming that he will be hauling people on this trailer, we ask what he will be hauling on this trailer?

He told us that in the first post:
I was more concerned about the tongue weight and the movement of people on the trailer


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