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frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby inairam » Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:09 pm

This may sound strange but has anyone designed / fabed a steel frame to replace the engine in a cub?

Say you pulled the engine for rebuild but wanted to keep the tractor as rolling chassis to move the tractor around.
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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby indy61 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:38 pm

You could probably make a brace for each side out of wood. Just measure the length and bolt pattern.

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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby Bob McCarty » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:22 pm

If your splitting stand is on wheels, you can roll the back half with it. The front end can easily be maneuvered with the steering wheel, you just have to be careful when you set it down.
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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby ricky racer » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:47 pm

There are lots of ideas on how to do it out there. Probably the most simple and cost effective is the bottom picture using a trailer tongue jack.

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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby muleboss » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:29 pm

To me what your original question is asking is just take some heavy angle iron cut to about same length as engine and weld some bolts on the ends. Put one on each side and bolt it back together with bolts in bell housing and the front bolster holes, Should be easy to do.
I took it you wanted it to be in one piece , not 2.

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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby Gary Dotson » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:53 am

I think your idea has merit! I think an arm load of angle and you could whip something up pretty easy. It would even give you the option to load it onto a trailer to haul it from here to there. Show us what you build!

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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby inairam » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:21 am

I am not looking for a way to split the tractor. I can do that easily enough.

I am thinking of something like frame rails like what IH used on the larger tractors. This is for an IH300.
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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby Bill Hudson » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:46 am

Just a thought, to me shorter would be better. Shorter wheel base takes up less floor space and since your goal was "to keep the tractor as rolling chassis to move the tractor around," it makes for a smaller turning radius.

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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby inairam » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:01 am

Bill Hudson wrote:Just a thought, to me shorter would be better. Shorter wheel base takes up less floor space and since your goal was "to keep the tractor as rolling chassis to move the tractor around," it makes for a smaller turning radius.

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I do not have any floor space to speak of the barn is like 15 x 20 with 1/3 of that the "service bay". I have to get it outside the barn so it has to be strong enough to take being on dirt /uneven ground, being towed, and the steering needs to still work. I need to make it engine size for my plan to work.
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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby Bill Hudson » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:07 am

inairam wrote: I do not have any floor space to speak of the bar is like 15 x 20 with 1/3 of that the "service bay". I have to get it outside the barn so it has to be strong enough to take being on dirt /uneven ground, being towed, and the steering needs to still work. I need to make it engine size for my plan to work.


That makes perfect sense.

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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:09 pm

So you need a scrapped block?
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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby Rodney51Cub » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:15 pm

inairam wrote:I am thinking of something like frame rails like what IH used on the larger tractors.


That would be the ideal thing to use. You would just have to drill and weld the proper end plates.
Or you could use some C channel or square tubing with the proper end plates.
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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:21 pm

I’d think a simple box structure made from 2” angle iron would be easy enough to fabricate and pretty cheap too.
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Re: frame to replace engine in tractor

Postby Dale Finch » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:52 pm

I agree with outdoors4evr...get a scrap engine block. Last week I grabbed the block that I had taken to the machine shop, still a naked block, and bolted it back in place (with 4 bolts in front & rear), so I could bring the tractor home.
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