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Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
Hi,
I sent you a PM.
It is common for Cub magneto coils to go bad, or partly quit, like you described in your 1st post on page 1 of this post.
People have said on here the engine runs bad, or stops after 20 or 30 minutes of use.
Then the engine runs again when it is cold.
But the condenser can cause a similar problem.
You could do a spark strength test when the engine quits, and see if the spark is normal or small.
The spark should be blue or white, and jump a 1/4" gap.
Below is a listing at TM Tractor for a new coil, it is under the cover on top of the magneto, you can look at the pics.
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/713fp.htm
The coil originally has a rectangular bar through it, for the mounting. Save it and use it in the new coil.
Below is their listing for points and condenser.
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/367fp.htm
I sent you a PM.
It is common for Cub magneto coils to go bad, or partly quit, like you described in your 1st post on page 1 of this post.
People have said on here the engine runs bad, or stops after 20 or 30 minutes of use.
Then the engine runs again when it is cold.
But the condenser can cause a similar problem.
You could do a spark strength test when the engine quits, and see if the spark is normal or small.
The spark should be blue or white, and jump a 1/4" gap.
Below is a listing at TM Tractor for a new coil, it is under the cover on top of the magneto, you can look at the pics.
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/713fp.htm
The coil originally has a rectangular bar through it, for the mounting. Save it and use it in the new coil.
Below is their listing for points and condenser.
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/367fp.htm
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
Update: I had to start it today and took a couple of tries and to get her going I needed the choke on 3/4 on and if I took off the choke it would run rough and back fire and had barley any power so I let her warm up still the same missing,backfiring and no power so any Ideas because I'm completely lost here.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
As stated earlier, if it needs choke to run than it's likely a fuel supply issue. Have you tried cleaning the jet located on the side of the carb?
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
I have an after market carb on it right now but still have to original IH carb should I clean the main jet on the IH carb and put it in the aftermarket?
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
A lot of the aftermarket carbs are look-like but that is about it. It has been reported that parts do not mix between them and the originals. Putting original parts into one of them may just get you into more trouble.
Remove the existing jet from the aftermarket carb. Then clean and reinstall it into the same carb it came out of.
Remove the existing jet from the aftermarket carb. Then clean and reinstall it into the same carb it came out of.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
Some aftermarket carbs don't have this port drilled open. You might disassemble and check.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
Just cleaned the main jet and it made no difference in how it runs.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
Did you check whether the hole was drilled? Check the float settings.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
No I didn't have anymore time to check I will when I have time.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
Just checked the hole you said might not be drilled out mine is drilled all the way through. I also checked the float level and it's 3/16 of an inch away from the top of the cover. Could it just be something in the magneto because every thing fuel related is perfectly sound.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
RedFred wrote:Could it just be something in the magneto because every thing fuel related is perfectly sound.RedFred wrote:It runs nice cold but 30 or 40 minutes after starting it starts to spit and sputter.
I'm pretty sure I previously said faulty coil.Eugene wrote:Coil breaking down?
I have an excuse. CRS.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
Ok I will get coil and put new points and condenser in but where can I get a coil because PM only lets me put in one country which is the states because I live in Canada.
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Re: Farmall cub Loses power when hot.
TM does ship internationally. Call them at 207-892-0163.
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