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How much weight is too much?

Postby Inspectorjoe » Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:57 pm

I want to eliminate chains, so I thought I'd double up on rear wheel weights. The wheels are loaded with calcium chloride. I just discovered a crack on the inner side of one of the tires. They are otherwise in good condition. I've had garden tractor tires with much more severe cracking, but there wasn't a lot of weight on them. I'm looking for opinions on whether I'm asking for trouble with doubled up weights and calcium chloride loading.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby ricky racer » Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:19 pm

The calcium chloride is in the tubes, not the tires, I would assume. If you add rear wheel weights, you can increase the tire pressure a few pounds to minimize the sidewall flex to compensate.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby Inspectorjoe » Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:34 pm

ricky racer wrote:The calcium chloride is in the tubes, not the tires, I would assume. If you add rear wheel weights, you can increase the tire pressure a few pounds to minimize the sidewall flex to compensate.


I forgot to mention that the tires aren't tubed.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby Barnyard » Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:43 pm

Inspectorjoe wrote:I forgot to mention that the tires aren't tubed.

You do not want calcium in an untubed tire. The calcium will corrode your rims. I would grain the tires and just go with weights. The first pic shows what may be corrosion already eating through the rim.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby ricky racer » Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:49 pm

Inspectorjoe wrote:
ricky racer wrote:The calcium chloride is in the tubes, not the tires, I would assume. If you add rear wheel weights, you can increase the tire pressure a few pounds to minimize the sidewall flex to compensate.


I forgot to mention that the tires aren't tubed.


Are you sure there are no tubes in those tires? I don't know if I've ever seen a tubeless tire of that vintage.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby Inspectorjoe » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:29 pm

Barnyard wrote:
Inspectorjoe wrote:I forgot to mention that the tires aren't tubed.

You do not want calcium in an untubed tire. The calcium will corrode your rims. I would grain the tires and just go with weights. The first pic shows what may be corrosion already eating through the rim.


I have to think that simply draining them wouldn't stop corrosion from continuing. If I did do away with the calcium chloride, I'd want to dismount the tires, remove any rust and paint the rims. That's something I don't have time for in the short term.

That area that looks like rust damage is just calcium chloride solution that dripped down from the valve the day before. The rims appear to be pretty solid. Oddly, the solution that came out was crystal clear. I expected it to be rust-colored.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby Inspectorjoe » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:32 pm

ricky racer wrote:
Inspectorjoe wrote:
ricky racer wrote:The calcium chloride is in the tubes, not the tires, I would assume. If you add rear wheel weights, you can increase the tire pressure a few pounds to minimize the sidewall flex to compensate.


I forgot to mention that the tires aren't tubed.


Are you sure there are no tubes in those tires? I don't know if I've ever seen a tubeless tire of that vintage.


Yes. There are two-piece valve assemblies installed.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby Barnyard » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:44 pm

Inspectorjoe wrote:Yes. There are two-piece valve assemblies installed.

That is what a tube valve looks like. You have tubes in them.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby ricky racer » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:00 pm

That looks like a valve stem for tire tubes used to accept liquid ballast.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby Inspectorjoe » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:05 pm

Barnyard wrote:
Inspectorjoe wrote:Yes. There are two-piece valve assemblies installed.

That is what a tube valve looks like. You have tubes in them.


Really? You made my night! That explains why the solution was so clear.

Now, do you have any thoughts on doubled-up weights with that crack?
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby Inspectorjoe » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:09 pm

Barnyard wrote:
Inspectorjoe wrote:Yes. There are two-piece valve assemblies installed.

That is what a tube valve looks like. You have tubes in them.


What's the giveaway? The nylon nut? I've seen that style for tubeless use, but they have brass nuts.
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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby kully560 » Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:46 am

if the tires are filled with calcium, it is supposed to be filled over the top of the rim. this way there will be no air to reach the metal for the rust to start!

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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby SONNY » Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:17 am

Get rid of that crap NOW while you have any rim left at all! I would just get new rims cause you will be doing so in the very near future!!!

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Re: How much weight is too much?

Postby ajhbike » Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:26 am

I have seen what that will do to rims although it is a long process of decay.
I use single wheel weights with chains because no matter how much weight on the tires, I need the chain biting into the snow and ice for the couple storms a year we get. My big JD weighs 9,000 lbs and will still slip and slide without chains.


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