New to Me Farmall AV

Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Indy4570 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:01 pm

congrats, enjoyed tagging along on this journey VERY MUCH!! Great work!
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:49 pm

Neeeext???!! :big smile:
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Bill E Bob » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:04 pm

Stanton wrote:It's funny. You want and desire something for such a long time and then when you get it, that desire goes on down the road to some other place.


As has been said by better than me: The pleasure is much greater in the journey than the destination.

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:40 am

Indy4570 wrote:congrats, enjoyed tagging along on this journey VERY MUCH!! Great work!


Bill E Bob wrote:As has been said by better than me: The pleasure is much greater in the journey than the destination.


Thanks, y'all. Can't say it was fun--drug out too long. But I agree with you Bill.

Dale Finch wrote:Neeeext???!! :big smile:


Need to turn my attention to a couple things I already have. Thanks to you, Dale, you've got me going over my '47 Cub with a fine-tooth comb. Also need to address a 23A disc that's been sitting outside...
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby cguarino » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:11 am

How can identify an AV. I have one that I think is an AV but the data plate is missing. Is there any other way to identify the year and model?

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:42 am

Absent the serial number tag, the easiest way is the size of the front and rear wheels and the length of the front spindles.

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:25 pm

OK, so there was one last item remaining "to do" on this 1942 AV that I didn't get around to: the drawbar. The AV, being a high crop, has a drawbar that is about 16-11/16" AFF. Using the regular Farmall A drawbar brackets (similar to a Cub) off the final drives leaves the drawbar about 23"-24" AFF. A little too high by all accounts.

Having put out an APB on here some time back about wanting to buy an AV drawbar, there was no response. So, I used the Service Manual and the Owner's Manual to make my version. The drawbar I had was for a regular Farmall A. The drawbar for an AV model has a vertical piece welded along each "leg" of the bar to be at a parallel plane to the drop axles. Angle iron was used to extend down the extra 6" to put the drawbar at the appropriate height. The Farmall AV drawbar is about 1" wider than a regular A drawbar, because there are no thick bracket plates.

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I started off with 2"x2"x1/4" thick angle iron and a couple 1/2"x2"x24" bars. Since the drop brackets I had from the regular Farmall A were not to be used, there needed to be a 1" space accounted for. I did this with the bars. They also allowed me to extend the drawbar rearward so it just protruded behind the rear tires.

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After getting the angle iron drilled and in place, the bars were drilled and fitted. The moment of truth was putting the drawbar up in between the bars to see that it just had enough clearance to fit. The end result was this (sorry for the dark pics):

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The center line of my drawbar is 16" AFF. I'm happy with it and will look forward to when the weather's warmer and I can paint it.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby ricky racer » Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:32 pm

You do awesome work Stanton!! :worthy: The tractor looks fabulous! Thank you for taking us along on your journey!! :thanx:
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:43 pm

Stanton wrote:. . . The drawbar I had was for a regular Farmall A. . . . The Farmall AV drawbar is about 1" wider than a regular A drawbar, because there are no thick bracket plates. . . . Since the drop brackets I had from the regular Farmall A were not to be used, . . .

Sounds like you had a drawbar for a Super A not an A, quite different.

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:40 pm

Jim Becker wrote:
Stanton wrote:. . . The drawbar I had was for a regular Farmall A. . . . The Farmall AV drawbar is about 1" wider than a regular A drawbar, because there are no thick bracket plates. . . . Since the drop brackets I had from the regular Farmall A were not to be used, . . .

Sounds like you had a drawbar for a Super A not an A, quite different.


It’s weird. Bought the tractor down in Oklahoma from a guy who got it from Louisiana. It had regular A front wheels and a drawbar with brackets like an A. Think it must be a combination of a couple different models.

Anyway, I’ve tried to get it looking like a factory AV as much as possible (except for the two-tone paint, of course).
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:24 pm

What I am saying is that an A drawbar does not have separate plates on the sides. It is a welded unit. Your U-shaped drawbar is from a Super A.

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:51 pm

Photos taken from my original paper catalogue:
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:29 am

Jim Becker wrote:What I am saying is that an A drawbar does not have separate plates on the sides. It is a welded unit. Your U-shaped drawbar is from a Super A.


Gotcha! Forgot to say earlier that the serial tag didn’t have “AV” in the number, further suggesting a hodgepodge of models.

Thanks for your input!
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby customcutter » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:11 pm

Thanks for documenting this restoration. I've read the first 5 pages tonight and the last page. I'll read the rest of it in the next few days. Going to try and get my FIL's Super AV running. It's been sitting for at least 15 years since he bought it to do a restoration on. LOL I really enjoyed some of the simple fabrication tricks you employed!

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby SamsFarm » Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:10 am

Stanton wrote:The center line of my drawbar is 16" AFF.


I am drawing a blank to what AFF stands for!

My assumption that it is from level ground.
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