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Stuck Motor
As if I didn't have enough problems, the motor is stuck on my Super C. We put on a 12 volt battery and it wouldn't budge. Tried again a couple minutes later and it spun the fan a 1/4 turn then stopped. Waited a few minutes and tried again, but it wouldn't turn over. We poured some oil down each cylinder and will try again.
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Re: Stuck Motor
Pull the starter off and look inside. I had one that did the same thing, and it was caused by an animal nest inside by the flywheel. All covers were in place so i'm not sure how they can get in but they do.
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Re: Stuck Motor
raystractors wrote:Pull the starter off and look inside. I had one that did the same thing, and it was caused by an animal nest inside by the flywheel. All covers were in place so i'm not sure how they can get in but they do.
Hey thanks for that information. That didn't even occur to me. I'll do just that and report back.
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Re: Stuck Motor
careful forcing it, I have found the pushrods can bend on those, you may want to pull the rocker arm loose so they do not get bent
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Re: Stuck Motor
tst, thank you for your input. I can use all the help and advice I can get.
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Re: Stuck Motor
I'll tell you what, if she don't turn over pretty soon, Ima gonna park a green one next to it. I think that ought to scare its insides loose.
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Re: Stuck Motor
Hairy Moose Knuckles wrote:. . . it spun the fan a 1/4 turn then stopped.
This is not the behavior of a truly "stuck" engine. Remove the starter then see if it will turn with the crank. If not, stick a pry bar through the starter hole and into a ring gear tooth on the flywheel. Try to move it a bit backwards (pry the visible part of the flywheel down). If it moves at all, start looking for whatever is causing the bind. If is doesn't move, you need to dig deeper for the problem.
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Re: Stuck Motor
Took starter off.
1. No rats nest, but did find a small dirt dauber nest. Cleaned it and made sure starter was working.
2. Tried prying flywheel, but it wouldn't move in either direction.
3. Not related, but I took off valve cover and it was nice and oily in there.
1. No rats nest, but did find a small dirt dauber nest. Cleaned it and made sure starter was working.
2. Tried prying flywheel, but it wouldn't move in either direction.
3. Not related, but I took off valve cover and it was nice and oily in there.
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Re: Stuck Motor
I assume I need to pull the head. I'm going into uncharted territory and will need your guidance.
I used to wrench on my old car back in the day, but it's been a real long time.
Looks like I need to remove the Carb, manifold, and water pump.
1. I assume the the rocker assembly above only has 2 bolts correct? When I remove those it will lift off. Is that correct?
2. Do the push rods need to be kept in order? If so, is there anything else that needs to be done. So I can get it back together?
Anyone here willing to be my mentor? You guide me and I'll post what's done with pictures.
I used to wrench on my old car back in the day, but it's been a real long time.
Looks like I need to remove the Carb, manifold, and water pump.
1. I assume the the rocker assembly above only has 2 bolts correct? When I remove those it will lift off. Is that correct?
2. Do the push rods need to be kept in order? If so, is there anything else that needs to be done. So I can get it back together?
Anyone here willing to be my mentor? You guide me and I'll post what's done with pictures.
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Re: Stuck Motor
you can leave the manifold and carb on the head unless you want to make it lighter, water pump is in the block, not the head, just has a bypass hose to connect them, keep the push rods in order is a good practice, they are adjustable also
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Re: Stuck Motor
My brother reminded me of something last night. He and I tried to pull start it in the summer of 2013 and it turned over, but we couldn't start it. It was in gear when we tried.
So I know it was not stuck at that time.
So I know it was not stuck at that time.
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Re: Stuck Motor
Adding more atf/diesel on occasion to keep it topped off. Otherwise, I'm just being patient. I'm holding off pulling the head for the time being.
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Re: Stuck Motor
A frozen up water pump or fan could give the illusion an engine is stuck too (if the belt is good and tight). A hand crank might help you out in getting some leverage on the crankshaft to see whats going on. If you're not worried about the belt, cut it off and rule that out. Most need replacement anyways. Should one of the pushrods be bent, I have plenty used ones. Roll them on a piece of glass to check them out. Last time I checked, a new one from Case/IH was around $80 each, although aftermarket ones are available too.
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