The C, Super C, 200 and 230, just seem like they would make a nice tractor on the present era small farm. Escecially a Fast-Hitch equiped model.
Dont know why they made so many changes to the hydraulics and fast hitch on the 230, but without having any experience with either, just reading about it, I think I would rather have the 200 over the 230.
However acording to tractordata.com, the 230 recieved more compression and a increase of 400 rpm.
I guess this gave the 230 five ponies more that its older sibling!
Makes me wonder if the 230 recieved a different ring and pinion to account for the higher revving engine. ???
Also wonder how the pto speed remained 540, wonder if there was gearing changes in the pto too. ???
I would not hesitate to hook a strong one up to the baler and bale some hay!
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I was thinking a 2 furrow plow , I have a few of them around . Maybe a disc , you never know . I'm just waiting to here if they accepted the offer .
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The hydraulic and Fast-Hitch changes from the 200 to the 230 were analogous to the changes going on with the bigger tractors. They all went to a mechanical (and sort-of automatic) traction-control system. Hydraulic depth control was eliminated. Those changes interacted with each other. Use of remote hydraulic cylinders was increasing and Touch-Control made interfacing with them difficult. The built-in cylinders of the Touch-Control were pretty small compared to typical remote cylinders. Essentially Touch-Control had designed itself into a corner.
IH material of the time claimed a power increase of 15% for the 230. The PTO was listed as 539 rpm at 1650 engine rpm, same as the C (and I presume Super C and 200). Even the 240, with an even higher rated engine speed still quoted PTO speed at 1650 engine rpm. The standard gearing was the same between the 200 and 230. Changing the rated engine speed would make a proportional change in ground speeds.
IH material of the time claimed a power increase of 15% for the 230. The PTO was listed as 539 rpm at 1650 engine rpm, same as the C (and I presume Super C and 200). Even the 240, with an even higher rated engine speed still quoted PTO speed at 1650 engine rpm. The standard gearing was the same between the 200 and 230. Changing the rated engine speed would make a proportional change in ground speeds.
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Re: C super c and 200
SamsFarm wrote:The C, Super C, 200 and 230, just seem like they would make a nice tractor on the present era small farm. Escecially a Fast-Hitch equiped model.
Dont know why they made so many changes to the hydraulics and fast hitch on the 230, but without having any experience with either, just reading about it, I think I would rather have the 200 over the 230.
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The Hydra-Touch on the 230 was a better system for controlling the fast hitch, and IMO the whole fast hitch was a "cleaner" assembly than the Super C/200 version. I never ran it cultivating (rode many miles on granddaddy's knee though!) but I think I would have preferred the Super C Touch Control for the front section.
Jim, I think it's been discussed before, but naturally the facts have left me---could the 230 still be ordered with Touch Control if desired?
thanks,
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Super A wrote:Jim, I think it's been discussed before, but naturally the facts have left me---could the 230 still be ordered with Touch Control if desired?
thanks,
Al
Apparently, sort of, more or less. I have not seen any reference to it in sales material, or price lists. The same parts catalog is shared with the 200 and 230 (and eventually the 240). Touch-Control is listed in the catalog for the 200. So as far as popping in at your dealer and picking up a Touch-Control 230, no.
But I have heard of Touch-Control equipped 230s from reasonably reliable sources (have forgotten who). Chisholm-Ryder used the 230 with Touch-Control for bean pickers. CR routinely special ordered tractors from Harvester. So 230s IH-built with Touch-Control should be out there. The CR tractors may be the only ones built that way.
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Re: C super c and 200
So it looks like we got a 230 , seems like nice condition , not perfect but nice. Not banged up low hour motor rebuild 6v system
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Magnum wrote:So it looks like we got a 230 , seems like nice condition , not perfect but nice. Not banged up low hour motor rebuild 6v system
Dont be shy, post up some pics!
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Yes it does have a fast hitch , I will take some pics and post them . I do have a short vid too .
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Well it should lighten the burden of work off the cubs and A . Plowing and disc work for starters
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