Trying to save a Super C
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
Copper sulfate is used to control algae in aquariums. Check you local pet store.
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
Try Don McCombs suggestion. If the sleeves are chrome or chrome composite call Hastings back.
Hastings rails are normally chrome plated to resist wear and extend engine life. - From their web site.
http://www.hastingsmfg.com/RingFinderIn ... ACD=3.1875
Check out part # 32441.
Their are other ring manufacturers other than Hastings. Actually, I know of one individual who manufacturers cast iron piston rings.
Hastings rails are normally chrome plated to resist wear and extend engine life. - From their web site.
http://www.hastingsmfg.com/RingFinderIn ... ACD=3.1875
Check out part # 32441.
Their are other ring manufacturers other than Hastings. Actually, I know of one individual who manufacturers cast iron piston rings.
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
Thanks for the advice
Went to the pet shop today, I got a product called " No more algae" Active ingredients include copper sulfate pentahydrate 0.05%.
I tried it on a few pieces of steel and chome.
Here is what I got when I did the cylinder walls. I was only able to get a few drops to stay on the walls.


I also put some on one of the old rings.

Is it safe to assume cylinder sleeves are not chrome?
Went to the pet shop today, I got a product called " No more algae" Active ingredients include copper sulfate pentahydrate 0.05%.
I tried it on a few pieces of steel and chome.

Here is what I got when I did the cylinder walls. I was only able to get a few drops to stay on the walls.


I also put some on one of the old rings.

Is it safe to assume cylinder sleeves are not chrome?
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
I guess it is a bit late, but I have never seen chrome sleeves in a 113 or a 123 engine
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
The longer the copper sulfate stayed on the walls the more "copper" color it turned.
For my purpose with the tractor I think I'll still go with the cast iron rings (oil ring will be chome) unless
there is anyone that thinks I should go with the chome rings. Not sure of the price difference.
For my purpose with the tractor I think I'll still go with the cast iron rings (oil ring will be chome) unless
there is anyone that thinks I should go with the chome rings. Not sure of the price difference.
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
Cleaned up the cylinders some tonight using a ball hone.
Here are some pics of the two worst cylinders (#2 and #3)

#3 cylinder below.


This is after a 30 to 60 second honing with 10w-30 motor oil. Trying to get it to look as best as I can, How does it look to you all?
Here are some pics of the two worst cylinders (#2 and #3)

#3 cylinder below.


This is after a 30 to 60 second honing with 10w-30 motor oil. Trying to get it to look as best as I can, How does it look to you all?
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
There are a number of Youtube videos on how to hone cylinders. Take a look at the condition of the cylinders after honing.
Top photo. Cylinder needs more work. Bottom two photos - Hard to tell from photos, but I don't think that cylinder will clean up enough to be serviceable.
Crankshaft exposed to cylinder honing debris?
Top photo. Cylinder needs more work. Bottom two photos - Hard to tell from photos, but I don't think that cylinder will clean up enough to be serviceable.
Crankshaft exposed to cylinder honing debris?
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
Crankshaft is covered really well.
Things have cleaned up a little bit better, nothing perfect. Will the new rings be ok with this?
Ring gaps in bore so far are 0.020 max. is 0.030.
Bottom two photos - Hard to tell from photos, but I don't think that cylinder will clean up enough to be serviceable.
Things have cleaned up a little bit better, nothing perfect. Will the new rings be ok with this?
Ring gaps in bore so far are 0.020 max. is 0.030.
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
Without seeing and only guessing --- probably not.Eric85 wrote:Things have cleaned up a little bit better, nothing perfect. Will the new rings be ok with this?
The engine needs to be pulled and then completely disassembled. Each engine part needs to be evaluated as to serviceability, including the clutch. All before any labor is conducted to clean up or rehabilitate parts, machine work, or parts purchased.
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
I haven't posted in a long time. But wanted to let everyone know that I got the tractor running soon after the last post on this thread. It's been running great for 4 years now. Never pulled the engine like some on here told me too.
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
What all have you done to the tractor? Did you do any cosmetic work to it, or do you use it? Would like to see some pictures or video of her running again!
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
Glad to see it all worked out. I love the Super C. I want the one we have at work. Its got a 2pt fast hitch with all the hydraulic bells and whistles
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
Well, you really had nothing to lose by putting it back together and giving it a try. If this were a working tractor that you used all day every day, it probably would have needed a full rebuild, but the way most of us use these tractors these days, it will probably outlast you!
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Re: Trying to save a Super C
Matt Kirsch wrote:Well, you really had nothing to lose by putting it back together and giving it a try. If this were a working tractor that you used all day every day, it probably would have needed a full rebuild, but the way most of us use these tractors these days, it will probably outlast you!
yep.....what he said


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