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184 Hydrostatic

Postby Jim Reid » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:05 pm

I have always heard an idle mind was the devils workshop so i stay busy have two 184s been thinking how to use the hydrostatic from a cub cadet on one of the 184s looking at another one that has power steering thoughts and ideas welcome.

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Re: 184 Hydrostatic

Postby Don McCombs » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:50 pm

There was some discussion a while ago on here, and also some work at a Cubfest, about adding power steering to a cub. You might do a search on "power steering".
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Re: 184 Hydrostatic

Postby BigBill » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:20 am

I think power steering can be added using a pump and gear box from a gm truck, or Jeep ect.
Change the steering box out and add the pump.

Wasn’t there pics posted of a prototype hydro tranny in a numbered series tractor?
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Re: 184 Hydrostatic

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:00 pm

I guess I am getting to be an old codger. A cub either original or numbered series with a loader, I can see the advantage of power steering, but using normal attachments and normal use, I cannot see much need for it.
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Re: 184 Hydrostatic

Postby BigBill » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:31 pm

With a power steering upgrade we also need to upgrade the front spindles so they don’t bend. The bearing are weak too. If your using a front end loader the front axle may need to be made stronger or replaced too.

Rule of thumb with any steering, manual or power the vehicle needs to be moving even if it’s moving slow to turn the wheels effortlessly. Or the tie rods start showing wear. Never turn the wheels with the vehicle stopped.
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Re: 184 Hydrostatic

Postby mozer71 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:01 am

Great advise and Merry Christmas to you all. Nothing is free, so running the pump is extracting a fraction of ponies. When put to work, extracting more.
Belts need wound around the pulley at least 1/2 diameter or else you have burning clutch. The belts are slipping, creating friction which wears the pulleys. So, in this situation, idler pulleys are required. All of this requires constant tension which robs the ponies.
Not to mention the wear into the sleeve bearings of every type.

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Re: 184 Hydrostatic

Postby BigBill » Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:08 pm

To add power steering to a numbered tractor one must take a extra crank pulley and cut off the cone and bolt it to the orginal crank pulley so it can drive the power steering pump.
Align the extra pulley close, transfer the new holes to the orginal pulley. Once it bolted tram the alignment with a indicator tighten the bolts then pin it. Then remove the bolts and loctite them.
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Re: 184 Hydrostatic

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:57 am

With a 184, you have 12v and lots of amperage available. An electric power steering unit from a Saturn Vue or a newer vehicle with electric power steering is probably an easier upgrade. Electric will eat minimal (probably unnoticeable) horsepower and is more modular (easier to integrate).
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Re: 184 Hydrostatic

Postby Duner » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:39 pm

On my 154 when the fan hub bearing started to get noisy and needed replacement I added a second pulley at that time to run an accessory.
What I used is a John Deere bearing # AA22273, cost about $ 22.51 at the dealer . This JD bearing has a longer shaft so you can stack A GM pulley #3995631 AO on the original cast pulley. You can see a good picture of the pulley at Oldsobsolete.com. I had to fill a space of about .480 inch between the pulley with washers from McMaster Carr. I wanted the new pulley to nest onto the cast iron pulley. When you get it all figured out , cut off excess shaft. I found my pulley at swap meet for $5.00.


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