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Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby Bbading1989 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:09 pm

I am a longtime lurker and felt the need to share this information!

I am finally getting around to doing some much needed work on my 184. I've been trying to find a way to upgrade the front wheel hubs the ball bearing to roller bearings.

What you need....
2x “shorty" style trailer hubs - these center bore is approx 3.5" deep
4x roller bearing sets (L-44610 & L-44643)
2x 1/2" diameter "thick" washer
2x 1.01 ID, 1.25 OD, 1/2" long spacer - you can get a cat 2/3 3pt bushing and cut it down to 1/2" long
2x 3/8" wheel spacers
10x 1/2-20 lug nuts

How to do it....
1. Remove hub and clean axle shaft
2. Slide on the 1/2" long spacer - this spacer will act as the sealing surface for the grease seal as well as pushing the hub far enough out in order for proper bearing preload.
3. Slide completed trailer hub (bearings, seals, etc) on the shaft.
4. Place the washer on the out roller bearing face and replace the center axle retaining bolt (use loctite) and torque to 15 ft-lb
5. Place the 3/8" wheel spacer on the hub and put your wheel back on. This will place the rim in exactly the same position as the original mounting.
6. Pop a :beer: you are done!

When it's all said and done this whole project cost me about $75

If there's enough interest I will find a way to post the pictures but it's a pretty straightforward process :tractor:

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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby RonT » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:17 pm

Thanks for the great idea using readily available parts. I have a 154 with very loose front wheel bearings that is nearing completion of the drive train work. I have all of those parts on hand except for the trailer hubs.

Ron

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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:42 pm

Are you using 5 hole cub style rims for the conversion or universal trailer rims? Thanks.

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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby Bbading1989 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:59 pm

staninlowerAL wrote:Are you using 5 hole cub style rims for the conversion or universal trailer rims? Thanks.


I currently have the standard IH 5 lug turf tires that are original to the tractor but the AG style farmall cub rims should fit the trailer hubs too. I believe they are all 5x4.5" bolt circles
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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby Bbading1989 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:02 pm

RonT wrote:Thanks for the great idea using readily available parts. I have a 154 with very loose front wheel bearings that is nearing completion of the drive train work. I have all of those parts on hand except for the trailer hubs.

Ron


I was able to grab the hubs for about $30 a piece on Amazon. The hubs from Amazon already have the races pressed in so all you would need is the oil seal and rollers. I forgot to add the p/N for the grease seal, if you need that I can get it for you.

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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby pcar » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:11 pm

I can't locate the short style hubs, can you post a link?

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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby Eugene » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:34 pm

pcar wrote:I can't locate the short style hubs, can you post a link?
The information provided; bearings L-44643 & L-44610 are for 1" diameter spindles.

Search suppliers for hubs that match the bearing spindle diameters, number of wheel bolts, and their measurement.

Tractor Supply, TSC, has a good number of hub and bearing kits.
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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby pcar » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:45 pm

It seems all the hubs that list dimensions show 4 1/4" deep, not 3 1/2. I'll check TSC.

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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby Eugene » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:13 pm

Original poster used 1/2" spacer to move the hub outward. Then installed the hub. Then one 1/2" thick washer.

If you removed the 1/2" spacer and used a 1/4" thick washer you are at the 4 1/4" mark.

My opinion. I would take my own measurements and then reseach the available hubs for one that matched my needs. We just replaced one hub on son's trailer. The complete hub kit from TSC; hub, greased bearings, cotter key, cap, came to around $30-.

Edit: The hub kit also had the seal for the back bearing.
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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby pcar » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:15 pm

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby BigBill » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:44 am

Sounds good I often wondered it that would work. I have a trailer kit sitting here.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby Bbading1989 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:07 pm

Eugene wrote:Original poster used 1/2" spacer to move the hub outward. Then installed the hub. Then one 1/2" thick washer.

If you removed the 1/2" spacer and used a 1/4" thick washer you are at the 4 1/4" mark.

My opinion. I would take my own measurements and then reseach the available hubs for one that matched my needs. We just replaced one hub on son's trailer. The complete hub kit from TSC; hub, greased bearings, cotter key, cap, came to around $30-.

Edit: The hub kit also had the seal for the back bearing.


There are two different types of 5 lug trailer hubs. The standard which everyone on here know about. Then there are "shorty hubs" which where used by a couple of older trailer manufacturers. You can't use a washer but cause you need to provide a grease seal surface (even on the 4-1/2"hub) which will still put the outboard bearing seating surface past the end of the spindle. I looked into getting the 4-1/2 hub machined down so I wouldnt have to weld the spindle and I found the shorty style hub which fit our spindles perfectly
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Re: Front wheel hub with tapered bearing upgrade complete!

Postby Bbading1989 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:10 pm

pcar wrote:It seems all the hubs that list dimensions show 4 1/4" deep, not 3 1/2. I'll check TSC.



Here are the hubs I used. Follow my instructions to the T and you will have functional grease seals. You will have to use a 3/8" wheel spacer because the spindle shaft is too. My hub is mounted as far out as possible and to get the correct "track width" you need the 3/8" spacers on each side

Reliable Trailer Hub (Shorty) for 1 Inch OR 1-1/16 Inch Straight Spindles (BT-150A-02) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019PBHACK/re ... UTF8&psc=1


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