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Plow question

Postby rhallett » Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:36 am

Looking for some advice from the group... I have a nice 185 with a three point hitch and creeper gear. Primary use is for food plot preparation and maintenance. Came across this plow for a good price. Cat 1, 14". Does anyone here have experience plowing with a 185? Has turf tires, but the plot size is about 3/4 acre...
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Re: Plow question

Postby MiCarl » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:55 pm

No experience with a 185 but my thoughts:

1 - Creeper gear is irrelevant. You need to have enough speed so the dirt rolls over, probably 1st or 2nd gear.
2 - I think the 185 probably has enough power to pull a 14" plow.
3 - Your tires might be too wide. You want the right side tires to run in an open furrow which with this plow is theoretically 14" Probably your tire should be 12" or narrower.
4 - Traction. Between the size of the plow, weight of the tractor and the turf tires you're probably going to have trouble pulling it. Tire chains would help.

I pull a 12" plow with a standard Cub, R1 tires and #260 extra weight on the rear which brings my tractor to 1,710 lbs. I also shop in the big and tall store and am not tall so that helps. That set up just gets by in any kind of heavy soil. According to Tractordata your tractor weighs 1,485.

Also, the coulter looks too small for that plow. I believe someone cobbled on a coulter from a Brinly 10" plow. It's not going to do much for you. If you need a coulter (surface trash that needs to be cut) that might not be the best plow.
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Re: Plow question

Postby Bill Hudson » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:00 pm

In addition to what Carl has said, the 185 has a low ground clearance which can present some problems.

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Re: Plow question

Postby outdoors4evr » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:41 am

If you are adding chains to a 185, you will also need wheel spacers so that the chains don't tear the fenders off.
The spacers make the tire spacing more challenging. It looks like your plow can be adjusted left to right. Mount the plow to your 185 and loosen the bolts where the beam mounts to the 3-point.
Move the beam to the right until the bottom right of the plow lines up with the inside of the right tire. Tighten the bolts.
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Re: Plow question

Postby rhallett » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:47 am

Thanks everyone! I appreciate your quick guidance on the subject. Truly a big help!

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Re: Plow question

Postby Urbish » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:41 am

One other thing that hasn't been said yet, the creeper gear on the number series LoBoys is ONLY for reducing ground speed while doing things like roto-tilling and snow blowing. Using low range on the creeper gear while plowing could easily overload and grenade the creeper drive.
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Re: Plow question

Postby outdoors4evr » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:23 am

It takes a bit of speed to roll the dirt. Definitely plow in high range first gear.
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Re: Plow question

Postby SONNY » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:14 pm

dont even think about plowing with a 185! that little clutch will expload! PLUS if you have the fat tires, they wont fit in the furrow. 185 would never pull a 14 or 16 inch bottom to start with. --- ya a few passes in a 20x30 garden would probably work if you didnt have anything else but 3/4 acre is way out!

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Re: Plow question

Postby SamsFarm » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:39 pm

While I do not know for sure, I would think that the clutch on the 185 is the same as the one on the farmall cub, which plows fine with the 12 inch plow!

Is your plow really a 14 inch plow or is it a 12 inch?

Measure the width the plow will cut, not the length of the share. (Just in case you did not know, disregard this if you did it right)!

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Re: Plow question

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:31 pm

Sam, I only have limited experience with the 185, but from what I understand, their clutch is much smaller than on a standard cub, and is a weak point.
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Re: Plow question

Postby SamsFarm » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:35 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:Sam, I only have limited experience with the 185, but from what I understand, their clutch is much smaller than on a standard cub, and is a weak point.


Well, If thats true, that sucks!!!

My advice then is to sell that thing and buy a real cub, and plow, might as well get a disk too!
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Re: Plow question

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:16 am

Since you mentioned food plot, it will be very important to get that coulter down into the dirt to cut the old weeds. You can help yourself a lot by mowing the area to be plowed first to grind up the vegetation.
The clutch on a 185 is not the best design, but there are shear pins (most people replace it with a bolt) on the driveshaft to protect it. The shear pin will go before the clutch slips.
HamiltonBobsCubs recommends one being a hardened steel and the one toward the back being a softer metal. I recommend visiting their website (link at the bottom of this page) and reading through their tips and tricks.
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Re: Plow question

Postby Eugene » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:27 pm

Herbicide burn down. Disk Harrow. Seed. Disk Harrow, peg toothed harrow, spring toothed harrow.
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Re: Plow question

Postby SamsFarm » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:37 am

Skip the herbicide, or any "cide"!

Your body, the millions of creatures living in the soil, the honey bees AND your wildlife will THANK YOU for skipping the TOXIC chemicals!

Skip the gmo seed too!

Good luck!
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Re: Plow question

Postby Eugene » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:36 pm

Rhallet, original poster, is planning on a 3/4 acre food plot. That's about 3/4 the size of a football field.

He only mentioned a 185 and the purchase of a 3-point plow. My guess, if he had any other machinery, tractor or implement(s), he wouldn't have made his post.

SamsFarm wrote:Skip the herbicide, or any "cide"!

Your body, the millions of creatures living in the soil, the honey bees AND your wildlife will THANK YOU for skipping the TOXIC chemicals!.

Skip the gmo seed too!

Good luck!
Ya, well. I use a generic Roundup. I would kill all the plants in the potential food plot down to and including their roots.

GMO seed. Have to see what is included in the seed for the food plot. Most likely none, could be some.

Likely the seeded plants will be more beneficial to wild life than what is currently growing.
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