Looked at the 154 today. A couple more questions

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Looked at the 154 today. A couple more questions

Postby Dan Stuckey » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:16 pm

Went to see the 154 today that I asked some clutch questions about yesterday. Started easy, had to keep choke on a while to get some power going. No noticeable smoke on startup. Now here’s the bad part. Rear main seal is leaking pretty good. Trans a little noisy but if their like the old Cubs, guess you expect some of that. Hydraulics moves the deck smoothly. Lights aren’t working but no big deal for my use.

So the main seal deal. He was asking 1600 but said he’d take 1000. I’m wondering just how big of a job it is to do the seal. I’ve split a cub a number of times, no problem. I’m not familiar with the number Cubs at all but I learn fast. I was thinking about offering 600 or 700 for the machine, feeding it oil all summer and making the seal job a winter project. Does the engine have to come out to do this or remove all the parts behind the engine. (Not sure at this time what all those parts are called).

And I guess the seal retainer should be sent out to the member here that machines it to accept a tight seal fit. Is that correct?

Where’s a good place to find a decent service manual. Tks for any and all input.

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Re: Looked at the 154 today. A couple more questions

Postby SONNY » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:51 pm

The engine is the same c-60 that regular cubs use. --- in the 154- 185 stuff you have no room to do anything under, beside ,or behind it.
I am going to swap a 185 engine over to another 185 but time ran out for now so maybe later this year I can get it done.

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Re: Looked at the 154 today. A couple more questions

Postby outdoors4evr » Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:45 am

You don't have to "split" a numbered series. The earlier 154 versions required the engine to be slid forward in the frame. It is a 4 hour job if you had the machined rear seal & gaskets in hand before beginning.
I personally prefer a paper manual. Binder Books reprints the originals and they are fantastic.
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Re: Looked at the 154 today. A couple more questions

Postby Bill Hudson » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:13 am

outdoors4evr wrote:I personally prefer a paper manual. Binder Books reprints the originals and they are fantastic.


You betcha.

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Re: Looked at the 154 today. A couple more questions

Postby Dan Stuckey » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:27 pm

outdoors4evr wrote:You don't have to "split" a numbered series. The earlier 154 versions required the engine to be slid forward in the frame. It is a 4 hour job if you had the machined rear seal & gaskets in hand before beginning.
I personally prefer a paper manual. Binder Books reprints the originals and they are fantastic.


I agree and will look at getting the manual through them, a printed one. Not real keen on CD ones, still like something I can read anywhere. Anxious to learn a bit more about these. Well familiar with the engine but the set up between the engine and pto shaft is all new to me.

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Re: Looked at the 154 today. A couple more questions

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:12 pm

Tim (tst) will fix you up with the seal retainer with new seal installed ready to mount on your block. Here's his post on the VINE, Classified: viewtopic.php?f=223&t=110047

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Re: Looked at the 154 today. A couple more questions

Postby Dan Stuckey » Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:19 am

staninlowerAL wrote:Tim (tst) will fix you up with the seal retainer with new seal installed ready to mount on your block. Here's his post on the VINE, Classified: http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 3&t=110047


Used him some years back on a leak I had on a early cub engine I had. Great job he did.


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