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154 random frequent misfire

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Re: 154 random frequent misfire

Postby Duner » Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:11 pm

Coil has been on tractor for years and is the same as when I purchased the tractor.
I can't find any labels on the coil. I thought all 154.185 and 184 came from factory with true 12 volt coil with no external resister needed. I have spare coils and will try one or three to see what happens.

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Re: 154 random frequent misfire

Postby Gary Dotson » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:32 am

Just measure across the two post with an ohm meter. Internal resister coil will measure in the 3 ohm range, non internal resister will measure approx. 1.5 ohm,

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Re: 154 random frequent misfire

Postby Duner » Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:37 pm

The coil on tractor is 3 ohm.

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Re: 154 random frequent misfire

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:25 pm

I've been following this thread, but not had any useful suggestions. There are only two things I can think of that a running alternator could produce that causes the problem: 1) voltage too high for some component. 2) some weird (possibly) FR noise that causes a component to misbehave. I guess you could do some experiments to try to prove one or the other. You could try temporarily adding a ballast resistor to the circuit (even though the coil doesn't call for one). If it makes the problem go away, voltage is the problem. Of course, that still won't tell you which component is the problem. The other diagnostic trick that comes to mind would be to add a choke to the output line of the alternator, something like a ferrite ring. If I was to try that, I wouldn't be sure I had actually done anything. Again, if it worked you still wouldn't know what component was the problem.

It seems the condenser is the part most likely to be sensitive to either of these. You have replaced it. But have you only done that once? New condensers these days don't seem to have much quality control. There is a significant chance that you replaced an old bad condenser with a new bad condenser. Try another one, preferably one you can temporarily rob out of something that is working.

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Re: 154 random frequent misfire

Postby Eugene » Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:06 pm

Jim Becker wrote:I've been following this thread, but not had any useful suggestions. There are only two things I can think of that a running alternator could produce that causes the problem: 1) voltage too high for some component.
Duner wrote:Disconnect Delco 10si alternator, miss goes away. Install Delco 12si . Still misses.
Voltage check at battery.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: 154 random frequent misfire

Postby Duner » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:18 pm

Voltage was OK. 14.2 when I first started it and 13.6 volts a bit later.
I will post back when I get it figured out. You can bet it will be really simple or stupid .
Thanks!


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