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Shop door springs

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Shop door springs

Postby 69ranger » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:49 pm

I had troubles with my 12 X 12 shop door on Saturday and spent a lot of the after noon trying to get it safely lowered back down.

So, I was bummed out, that I had spent almost 700 bucks on it last September having a broken spring replaced, and now it was messed up again.
Last year, we replaced both springs, as they were 26 years old, It worked great for a few months, but then began giving trouble again.

As much as I hated to call the over head door company again, I do not really know much about them, and adjusting the springs 12 feet in the air seemed like a bad idea, anyway.

So this morning I called, and got some good news. The lady said their work carries a 12 moth warranty, and if its not working right, as long as the problem was not customer caused, they would fix it.

I said great, come look at it when its convenient, and we can sort it out then. I hated for them to make a special trip, as they are 60 miles one way form here.
The Lady said, they have a job in my area on Friday, and it should be a simple fix. We set up Friday as repair day.

I guess they got a call out for another job this morning that was unexpected, so I got a call at noon, saying they were sitting in my driveway, and would fix it if that was ok.
Well long story short, they guy was really nice, and good at what he did. He discovered the cable drum had worked loose, and the door was binding.

Door is fixed, works great, it took him less than and hour, and no charge. Covered under the warranty from last years work.

So it looked pretty simple what he did, and I feel a little helpless, not fixing it my self. I have no experience with these springs, and I'm not as young as I once was. :(

It is great to deal with a company that backs up their work. It was expensive, the first time around, but I think is was worth the cost.

Anyone work on their own doors? Looked like a good way to get hurt?

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Don McCombs
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Re: Shop door springs

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:06 pm

It IS a good way to get hurt, if you don’t know what you’re doing. I call the experts when I have any problems with my doors. I have 5 of them. :shock:
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Re: Shop door springs

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:46 pm

I agree with Don. Those springs canbe under a lot of tension, and can bite you if you don't know what you're doing.

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Re: Shop door springs

Postby Gary Dotson » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:34 am

I’ve always installed and repaired my own but like everyone else, I’m getting older. I no longer trust myself on tall ladders, it scares the heck out of me. A couple months ago, I had to replace the control board in my barn door opener. Since I can’t fly, I had to find another way. I have always wanted a platform step and this was my excuse for getting one. I’ve never felt safer on a ladder.

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Re: Shop door springs

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:02 am

Gary Dotson wrote:I’ve always installed and repaired my own but like everyone else, I’m getting older. I no longer trust myself on tall ladders, it scares the heck out of me. A couple months ago, I had to replace the control board in my barn door opener. Since I can’t fly, I had to find another way. I have always wanted a platform step and this was my excuse for getting one. I’ve never felt safer on a ladder.

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Re: Shop door springs

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:53 am

I have changed my own garage door springs in the past. But I have reached a point where I don't really want to mess with them. I have a door that has been randomly misbehaving for a while. I think the fix is to add a little bit to the spring tension. I suspect this is a precursor to a spring breaking. So far, my approach has been to put up with it.

I think garage doors are an irksome design to begin with. They are the only devices I can think of where the installation and adjustment of a big spring has to be done in the position with the maximum tension.

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Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:36 pm
Zip Code: 67357
Tractors Owned: 1948 Cub, 1952 Cub, 1953 Cub, 1946 Farmall A, 1949 Farmall M, 1956 IH 130, 1979 IH 140, 1959 Farmall 240.
Several Brand X Green tractors that sound strange when they run.
1969 F-100 fully restored, 1969 F 100 original paint, 1973 F 100, 50 K original miles all original, 1978 F250 repainted, 1978 Bronco, 1967 Mustang, 1973 Mach ! Mustang.
Several single cylinder Honda motorcycles from the early 70's. Adding more junk all the time.
Location: Parsons, Kansas

Re: Shop door springs

Postby 69ranger » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:29 pm

Hey glad Im not the only one who is chicken to mess with these big doors.
I have actually installed one of the smaller ones, only 7 foot high, with conventual style springs. Its mostly the height of this one, and not having knowledge of the direction those springs are wound, and how tight.
Glad its fixed, and its been a long time since it worked as good as it is now.

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Re: Shop door springs

Postby Steve Butram » Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:32 am

I've replaced several torsion springs on residential doors. You need to be very cautious and use the correct tools.

Commercial doors should be left to the Pros
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49 Leader "D" (Princess)
49 Leader "D" very rough
48 Leader "D" unrestored
Kubota B6200E
Kubota B6200HST
Kubota B8200HST-D
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Re: Shop door springs

Postby Gary Dotson » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:24 am

Don, just google podium step ladder.

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1957 Farmall Cub w/FH
1977 International Cub w/FH
1978 International Cub
1948 Farmall Super A
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Location: MD, Deep Creek Lake

Re: Shop door springs

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:37 am

Thanks, Gary.
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