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Wagon wheel help

Postby findmeoutside » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:10 pm

Hi there-

I just got an old hay wagon from my neighbor. I tooks the wheels off to put some tires on, and realized it seems like it needs bearings. As in there are none, and the fit is sloppy. There are shoulders on the nut where on e may fit. Any clue what make/type this wheel is, and if it needs a bearing or seal?

There is an outer lock nut on the hub, and a smaller nut on spindle where the bearing might sit

Thanks
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Re: Wagon wheel help

Postby birddog » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:12 pm

Hard to tell not seeing it apart, but it looks to be home or blacksmith made. It could have been a steel wheel originally which probably had bushings and not bearings.
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Re: Wagon wheel help

Postby findmeoutside » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:16 pm

Thanks, i will take a couple more pics of the spindle and retaining nut

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Re: Wagon wheel help

Postby findmeoutside » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:51 am

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Re: Wagon wheel help

Postby Eugene » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:04 am

What does is say on the hub, manufacturer name?

Drill, tap, install grease zert. Couple of large washers to tighten up the hub. Grease liberly, then a shot of grease every once in a while.
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Re: Wagon wheel help

Postby findmeoutside » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:07 pm

I finally scrubbed the junk off, its Kentucky Wagon MFG CO. Looks like they made some pretty old stuff. Not much out there on this type so far.

I agree after more measuring and playing, it seems a spacer/washers is all thats needed. They are already grease zerked.
With all the slop I wasn't sure the hub was supposed to ride right on spindle, then realized its tapered, and the washers should snug both directions
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Re: Wagon wheel help

Postby birddog » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:08 pm

There probably would have been a felt seal and a washer on the inside to help keep the dirt out.
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Re: Wagon wheel help

Postby findmeoutside » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:38 pm

Thanks, Anyone sell felt washers? I may have to make some. I also wondered about a slice of 2" pvc pipe as a washer...

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Re: Wagon wheel help

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:18 pm

I have NO idea of the dimensions of your axle, BUT I might still have this felt washer that came in a kit for a Cub front hub rebuild. I never installed it, because the inner bearing was OK, and even the IH Manual suggests not removing the bearing.

Anyway, if you think it would work, I will look for it.
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Re: Wagon wheel help

Postby birddog » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:16 pm

Sorry can't help with where to get some. I had some that I used, but have no idea where they came from. Although I do seem to remember they might have been in an IH box.
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