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2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:08 pm

As the title says I failed to resist temptation and brought 2 more projects home today.
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Neither run now but both turn free and show promise. I have a pile of implements that will come that were thrown in on the deal.
I checked the Fords serial number and it's a '49 8N. The other I haven't confirmed it yet but is a '32 Allis Chalmers "G".
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Yogie » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:12 pm

I always wanted one of those G tractors. I've seen them here with sickle bar mowers on them and thought with the wheels turned out there would be no stopping it. They also made that tractor with a single front wheel, now that would get a little scary.
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby tst » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:26 pm

tire needs air on the G

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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:32 pm

It’s a whole new ball game for me and I’ve got everything to learn about it. I was told it’s a ‘32 but it seems the date range on these was from ‘48 to ‘55. The ‘49 8N was supposedly a ‘69 9N.
That was easy enough to verify. The G’s serial number is supposed to be on top of the trans behind the shifter.
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:33 pm

tst wrote:tire needs air on the G

Just a little :lol:
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Bob McCarty » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:47 pm

Lt.Mike wrote:
tst wrote:tire needs air on the G

Just a little :lol:

Make sure you're sitting down when you price new ones. :shock:
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby tst » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:10 pm

they were not bad, bought BKT for the High Crops, same tire

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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:48 pm

When you get to engine parts for the G, you will find you are not in Cub land any more. The Ford looks more like a 2N/9N to me.

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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:55 am

Jim Becker wrote:When you get to engine parts for the G, you will find you are not in Cub land any more. The Ford looks more like a 2N/9N to me.

It’s got “8N” on the serial number.
Checked the serial # on tractordata.com and the photo for the 8N looked like what I have here.
I’ll get the paint off and a pic of the number later today .
Ya I’ve already seen some of the prices for that but a carb rebuilt kit is within reality and most everything seems to be there.
Tires, front and rear with tubes can be had for around $500. The tank is most likely going to need a creme coat. Battery box is about on par with everything else. The major parts seem all there. The plug wires on it are toast too.
As for the Ford, the tank, carb, battery box all need attention. The tires are all good so that will offset the G.
There are more plows and augers coming on the next load. I wouldn’t have normally dipped my toe in this pond but I was offered it all as a package at $1,000. I felt if either tractor was more than I wanted to deal with I could get it’s portion of that purchase back reselling it.
Turns out me neighbor has had his eye on that G for a long time so who knows I may just end up giving it to him.
I really don’t think I see anything on either tractor that says I can’t get them running.
Once running I’ll make the call to take them further or flip them. The G will go to my neighbor most likely as I said though.
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby dgrapes59 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:50 am

Jim Becker wrote: The Ford looks more like a 2N/9N to me.


I agree there's some 2N/9N "clues": 6 rear lugs vs 8 and visible center nut, brake peddles on both sides. Is it 3 or 4 speeds? Possible/probable engine swap? Could it possibly be a 19N? (9+2+8N's) :D

Regardless, looks like some fun projects to keep you busy, best of luck,
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:52 am

dgrapes59 wrote:
Jim Becker wrote: The Ford looks more like a 2N/9N to me.


I agree there's some 2N/9N "clues": 6 rear lugs vs 8 and visible center nut, brake peddles on both sides. Is it 3 or 4 speeds? Possible/probable engine swap? Could it possibly be a 19N? (9+2+8N's) :D

Regardless, looks like some fun projects to keep you busy, best of luck,

With a tractor this old anything’s possible.
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:15 am

Under the front Ford emblem is a rectangular badge saying Furguson. That something I saw on a photo of a 2N. Their are other things on this that suggest 2N like the floor boards and rear rims (that also say 9N).
Thinking it’s a 2N that got an 8N engine and 9N wheels.
I down loaded a lot of pics from tractor data and will go look it over better today.
For what I paid I’ve got no issues with it.
If I can get it running I’ll throw a small bushhog on its 3pt and put it to work.
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:35 am

Lt.Mike wrote:Thinking it’s a 2N that got an 8N engine and 9N wheels.

Based on the front hubs, I think it is a 2N/9N from the transmission back and 8N from the engine forward with a 2N/9N hood/grill.

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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:46 pm

Jim Becker wrote:
Lt.Mike wrote:Thinking it’s a 2N that got an 8N engine and 9N wheels.

Based on the front hubs, I think it is a 2N/9N from the transmission back and 8N from the engine forward with a 2N/9N hood/grill.

Ya I went out to look it over better today in the rain. I agree with your view on it as it is a "frankenFord".

Engine serial number 8N 213707 making the engine a '49. The numbers on tractordata say 8N is supposed to have twice the power at the drawbar that the 2N and 9N have for what that's worth.
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This is cast next to the starter on the block.
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Asking about 3 or 4 gears was a good question as the 8N has 4 speeds forward while the 2N and 9N have 3.
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I believe I'm looking at a Marvel Schebler cab (?).
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Interesting grille badging "I think" is unique to a 2N (?)
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this is above the steering wheel...
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Is anyone able to look and the trans and rear of the N series tractor and know how to tell the difference between the 9 and 2N tractors?

Ok, I also went looking for the the serial number for the Allis Chalmers.
It is located under the seat in front of the shifter boot and reads "G5641" which means it was made in its first year of production, 1948.
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Incidentally both of these tractors have mags and both have alternators so while they both are not factory original I am comfortable with making them work.
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Re: 2 New tractors found a home in my backyard today

Postby Super A » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:06 pm

Sell that Ford POS and use the money on the G!

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