This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

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This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Urbish » Tue May 25, 2021 7:37 am

So I may have a unique opportunity to acquire one of these. Both are wheatland tractors (no PTO or 3-pt) and both have Front Wheel Assist. Assuming it works out, whichever one I end up with will be relegated to parade duty and preservation. Which do you like best?
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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Don McCombs » Tue May 25, 2021 8:03 am

I like the 806. But, then, I’m prejudiced toward IH. :D
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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Urbish » Tue May 25, 2021 8:27 am

The MF 97 is a 'rebadged' Minneapolis-Moline G706 with different sheetmetal. I am pretty fond of both of them.
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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby SamsFarm » Tue May 25, 2021 9:05 am

Tractor collection up for auction?
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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Urbish » Tue May 25, 2021 10:19 am

Family member tractor collection downsizing.
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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby ajhbike » Tue May 25, 2021 12:22 pm

I like them both...Take both!

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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Gary Dotson » Wed May 26, 2021 7:50 am

It’s like choosing which son you like best! The M F would be the rarer of the two, the 806 is. our shade of red.

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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Urbish » Wed May 26, 2021 9:28 am

Gary Dotson wrote:It’s like choosing which son you like best! The M F would be the rarer of the two, the 806 is. our shade of red.


They are both pretty neat machines. I've always thought the M F was built like a tank, but the 806 is an imposing looking tractor too. Sadly somebody butchered the hood on the 806, but you have to look close to notice.

I'll be happy with either one. Unfortunately my wallet isn't thick enough to acquire both. :(
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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Stanton » Wed May 26, 2021 9:36 am

Urbish wrote:They are both pretty neat machines. I've always thought the M F was built like a tank, but the 806 is an imposing looking tractor too. Sadly somebody butchered the hood on the 806, but you have to look close to notice.

I'll be happy with either one. Unfortunately my wallet isn't thick enough to acquire both. :(


"Sadly somebody butchered the hood on the 806, but you have to look close to notice." Admittedly, you've already tipped your hand. Fairly even in your own mind, but, you noticed it and I'll wager you'll keep on noticing it as long as you own it. Sounds like you're leaning toward the Massey.
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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby SamsFarm » Wed May 26, 2021 12:09 pm

Take the IH!

The massey is a turd! :)
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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu May 27, 2021 6:24 am

Does the International have a torque amplifier? If it has the TA, I would get the IH.

There were 7409 IH 806 built (according to tractordata) Not sure how many diesel vs gas.
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/3/5/358-international-harvester-806.html

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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Urbish » Thu May 27, 2021 7:17 am

outdoors4evr wrote:Does the International have a torque amplifier? If it has the TA, I would get the IH.


The wheatland 806 tractors didn't get a TA either. Based on my research, the 806 should have 'INTERNATIONAL' emblems, not the 'FARMALL' ones that are on it. Only the row-crop tractors were branded as Farmall in the 60's.
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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Gary Dotson » Thu May 27, 2021 7:29 am

The Wheatland was a variation of the standard tread tractor and, as such, would have been labeled "International". While most Wheatland tractors were "TA delete", I believe it was available if the buyer chose.

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Re: This or that: Massey Ferguson 97 Wheatland FWA or International 806 Wheatland FWA

Postby Don McCombs » Thu May 27, 2021 7:30 am

I see a decision developing here. :D
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