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Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby Camemdad » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:04 am

Need advise regarding a Farmall Cub (1947?) plow setup.

I just bought my first tractor and it came with a plow on the front that attaches via a shaft extending from the plow to the rear ( under the drivers seat) seems to me that if I were to hit a rock or stump it could break that connection under the seat/axel.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby Urbish » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:50 am

I assume that by plow, you mean a snow/grader blade attached to the tractor and hanging off the front. The factory snow/grader blade for the Cub attaches to a bracket that hangs from the front implement mount and bolts to one or two of the implement mounting pads in the middle of the tractor. Without seeing a photo of your setup it is hard to know, but I would guess that you have a homemade plow mount if it is attached to the rear final drives.

Depending on how it is attached, it may be okay. The factory blade transfers the load through the castings of the tractor while one mounted to the rear final drives takes a much shorter path and is generally considered a more robust mounting solution. Note that the factory plow can be belly mounted and the bracket (substitute drawbar) mounts directly to the final drive housings. Post pics here and we can give you more insight.
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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby Urbish » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:51 am

You can look at photos of a mounted factory blade at this link:
http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim/blade54a_001.htm
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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:48 pm

Pictures of your plow and how it mounts would help.
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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby Kent F » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:10 am

Here is a picture of the setup

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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby Urbish » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:49 am

That is definitely a homemade setup. I can't tell how it is attached at the rear, but it appears to be mounted to the final drive housings. Does it wiggle side-to-side?
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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby Stanton » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:42 am

We can't see what's behind the blade, so don't know if it has a spring trip mechanism or not. The blade itself does not appear to be an IH blade.

So, two things:
  1. If the blade setup is rigid, then you'd be more apt to damage something on the Cub when the blade hits an unmovable object.
  2. If you use it on the type of driveway in the background of your picture and take it slow, you're probably okay.

This is the spring mechanism (or similar) on an IH blade setup (courtesy of TM Tractor):
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Go to TM Tractor's website and explore some of the different setups then compare yours to them:
http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim/gim_001.htm
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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby T-Mo » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:13 am

Looks like it's a blade off a garden tractor, which usually will have the upper lip flange like this one has. Those blades are usually of thinner gauge metal, henceforth the flange for strength.

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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:39 pm

There was a similar plow setup on my 48 when I bought it. I did not feel comfortable with it fastened to the finals so I scrapped it. At that, mine was pushing straight back on each final while yours is pushing straight back on a thin bar attached between the finals. My impression is that should the plow hit something the tendency might be for that bar to bend and attempt to pull each final inward possibly damaging one or both. My personal opinion is I wouldn't trust it but that's just me. :)

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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby Urbish » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:06 pm

radioguy41 wrote:There was a similar plow setup on my 48 when I bought it. I did not feel comfortable with it fastened to the finals so I scrapped it. At that, mine was pushing straight back on each final while yours is pushing straight back on a thin bar attached between the finals. My impression is that should the plow hit something the tendency might be for that bar to bend and attempt to pull each final inward possibly damaging one or both. My personal opinion is I wouldn't trust it but that's just me. :)

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FWIW: When in the belly (grader) position, the factory blade attaches to a thin bar (substitute drawbar) mounted to the finals. I get your concern if the bar isn't as stout as the factory substitute drawbar. Otherwise I wouldn't worry and push on.

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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:22 pm

Urbish wrote:
radioguy41 wrote:There was a similar plow setup on my 48 when I bought it. I did not feel comfortable with it fastened to the finals so I scrapped it. At that, mine was pushing straight back on each final while yours is pushing straight back on a thin bar attached between the finals. My impression is that should the plow hit something the tendency might be for that bar to bend and attempt to pull each final inward possibly damaging one or both. My personal opinion is I wouldn't trust it but that's just me. :)

1948 Farmall Cub-001a.jpg


FWIW: When in the belly (grader) position, the factory blade attaches to a thin bar (substitute drawbar) mounted to the finals. I get your concern if the bar isn't as stout as the factory substitute drawbar. Otherwise I wouldn't worry and push on.

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Except the scraper blade has a spring release should it hit something and it appears this one does not.
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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby Urbish » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:44 pm

I agree with that, except the spring does VERY little though.
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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby k hutchins » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:42 pm

I would be ok moving snow on a smooth surface that you're familiar with, but other than that l'd be leary.
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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby Winfield Dave » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:55 pm

Y'all worry too much.
If I showed you half of what my Dad and his brothers did with our Cub, you 'd have a heart attack.
Take your time plowing and you'll be fine.
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Re: Suggestions regarding this type of plow

Postby muleboss » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:26 pm

Here is setup on one I have. Works good in dirt.
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