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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby DickB » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:39 am

Matt Kirsch wrote:
Urbish wrote:The left side mount of the mower doesn't appear to be attached to the clutch housing. Details like that sometimes can make me shy away from a purchase.


It's not bolted in the correct place, but it is bolted. You crossed it out with your circle. Someone drilled a new hole and through-bolted it in a different location.

Probably had trouble with keeping the bolts tight. Probably didn't have the proper tapered bolts.


OH oh. Tell me, Matt. Tapered bolts? I think that might suggest a bolt change here. Is that a dealer-only bolt or TSC? No need to carry wrenches when mowing?

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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby Urbish » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:07 pm

DickB wrote:
Matt Kirsch wrote:
Urbish wrote:The left side mount of the mower doesn't appear to be attached to the clutch housing. Details like that sometimes can make me shy away from a purchase.


It's not bolted in the correct place, but it is bolted. You crossed it out with your circle. Someone drilled a new hole and through-bolted it in a different location.

Probably had trouble with keeping the bolts tight. Probably didn't have the proper tapered bolts.


OH oh. Tell me, Matt. Tapered bolts? I think that might suggest a bolt change here. Is that a dealer-only bolt or TSC? No need to carry wrenches when mowing?


TSC doesn't carry much in the way of tractor parts outside of some limited carb rebuild kits, universal mufflers, and some ignition parts. You won't find tapered bolts there that I know of. Steiner Tractor among others carry the ones required for the drawbar. I'm blanking on whether or not the implement holes in the clutch housing are the same size as the implement holes in the final drives. You'll want to measure the diameter before ordering (the holes in the finals should be 5/8-11. Especially if your Cub is like mine and somebody tapped some of the holes to the next larger size at some point.
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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby Barnyard » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:09 pm

DickB wrote:Tapered bolts? I think that might suggest a bolt change here. Is that a dealer-only bolt or TSC? No need to carry wrenches when mowing?

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/sp/445fp.htm
Used ones are often on Ebay, but you want to make sure they are the right size.
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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby MiCarl » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:16 pm

Urbish wrote:I'm blanking on whether or not the implement holes in the clutch housing are the same size as the implement holes in the final drives.


They are. I've got some 5/8 eye bolts I put on the tractor to strap to the trailer. I use them in the clutch housing and the holes in the final drives.
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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby inairam » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:51 pm

for your reference just saw on facebook market place near my work and it has hydraulics. Looks like 47-53

$3,500
Farmall Cub, with 2bucket fertilizer side dresser system, cultivators, tow bar, single bottom plow. New clutch,
pressure plate,battery. Good hydraulics. Hatfield PA Less

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 4190994226
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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby Waif » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:33 pm

MikeKing wrote:After considering a Loboy for a spell I decided I should probably stick with a standard Cub due to the work I wish to perform and attachment availability.
I am considering a '48 and thought I would ask for any thoughts you might have on this unit I'm considering.
I am unsure about the hitch system on this one, perhaps someone could explain exactly what I'm looking at!
Thoughts on the price and practically of hydraulic installation would also be helpful
Random thoughts on the unit itself would also be appreciated.
Many thanks!


Drawbar , as far as any hitch on that puppy. Some one just added a top hat shaped riser for a more level tongue on trailer being towed probably.

Adding hydraulics will be a project. Rebuilding the block before adding would save grief down the road ,but extends the project aspect too.

Without squinting around at castings and fastener locations for cracks , including the bolster ; and "earing" the engine it's hard telling on the unit itself.
Rear seal leaking? That would up wrenching time.

Rims were repainted with tires mounted.
That could be good or bad depending on why.
Hows the clutch ? How's the tranny?
Weights have a value , how much depending on locale.

If it is inline with prices in your area and you can get it for less , it would allow a dedicated implement remaining on it for convenience, and having parts on hand for another Cub...
But that would require a budget allowing multiple Cubs. And storage for them. :{_}:

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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby SONNY » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:04 pm

Asking prices around here are WAY off the chart!---Actual selling price would be $600. to $800. If you can find one! ----Not many left in this area, only collectors. ---still have all of mine, for now. I don't collect them, they just happened! thanks; sonny

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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby Mainely Saws » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:54 pm

I believe the sale includes a snowplow/grader blade along with the sickle bar mower and that the asking price is $2500 .

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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby inairam » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:13 pm

A snow blade with not hydraulics in Maine will be no fun at all - especially after laying out $2500.

Move on.
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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:23 pm

inairam wrote:A snow blade with not hydraulics in Maine will be no fun at all - especially after laying out $2500.

Move on.

Tough it out till summer, but save his number. Anything with a snowplow will be at a premium in the middle of winter. Save his contact info and call back in late spring/summer. You’ll be able to swing a better price then.
That is if you haven’t found something better.
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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby MikeKing » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:55 pm

Thanks for the feedback!

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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby MikeKing » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:07 pm

inairam wrote:A snow blade with not hydraulics in Maine will be no fun at all - especially after laying out $2500.

Move on.

Sounds like solid advice there! I wasn't sure how well they worked with the hand control.

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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby Barnyard » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:19 pm

I would still like to have the serial number for the trimmed dash database. It's gotta be between 38,500 and 40,000.
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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:42 pm

Barnyard wrote:I would still like to have the serial number for the trimmed dash database. It's gotta be between 38,500 and 40,000.

Bill if that wasn’t in Maine you would have worked something out by now and it’d be following you home. ;)
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Re: Advice on Cub I'm considering

Postby Barnyard » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:49 pm

Lt.Mike wrote:
Barnyard wrote:I would still like to have the serial number for the trimmed dash database. It's gotta be between 38,500 and 40,000.

Bill if that wasn’t in Maine you would have worked something out by now and it’d be following you home. ;)

Not at that price. :lol:
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