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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Bill Hudson » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:01 pm

Stanton,

No one is complaining. Thorough documentation with pics and narative, well worth the wait. And, as I recall, a health hickup along the way. No need for embarrassment on your part.

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Stanton » Sat Jul 30, 2022 3:32 pm

Bill Hudson wrote:Stanton,

No one is complaining. Thorough documentation with pics and narative, well worth the wait. And, as I recall, a health hickup along the way. No need for embarrassment on your part.

Bill


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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby ricky racer » Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:39 pm

She's going to be a good looking girl when you get done.
It's great when someone does a real quality job on a complete rebuild like you're doing. With a little TLC it will last another 70 years!
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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Clemsonfor » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:55 pm

Yea good job. Love the pics.

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Slim140 » Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:47 am

Stanton wrote:Mission accomplished for today’s goal. First time Nellie has set on her own 4 tires since this started…August of 2021. WOW! I’m embarrassed it’s taken this long. Sorry to drag this out on you all.

Don't be embarrassed or sorry for anything, life gets in the way and we're not paying you :lol:

It looks great, as does everything else you do :hattip:
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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Stanton » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:55 pm

Question for the Experts: The inward parts of the governor don't appear to sit true/flush like they should. Isn't the rim (left side of pic) supposed to sit flush with the housing like the right side?

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The inward part of the governor won't go down flush at the pin in the housing.


Here's a close-up of the pin in the housing...

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Looks like the pin is smashed at a lower elevation and preventing the rim of the inward governor parts to go all the way down.

Let me know your responses...thanks!
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Postby Stanton » Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:22 pm

While I'm waiting for the experts to chime in, I went ahead and gave the starter and radiator a fresh coat of black paint. Only had Rust-Stop BBQ Black (hi-temp), so that's what'll be.

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First mask off the starter tag.

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Letting 'em dry.


Next was to install the new needle bearing and governor shaft oil seal.

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Found a 5/8" steel rod, but needed to square up the ends in the lathe first.

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Tap, tap, tap...needle bearing installed.

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Tap, tap, tap...shaft oil seal installed.

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Used some locktight for the screws holding the Governor Tension Fork onto the Rockshaft.

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Next was installing the new Governor Spring...old one gave up the ghost...
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Lastly, I cut out new gaskets for the oil pan and radiator (both come from the same piece of gasket; the radiator from the waste piece inside the oil pan).
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First time using this brand of cork gasket. Even included a razor knife.

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Trace the outline...

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Measure the inside width...

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Lined up the edge of the gasket with front edge of work table and used a square to draw interior lines.
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A 1/2" diameter hole (1/4" radius) was close enough...

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Punched the inside corners...

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Punched the 5/16" diameter cap screw holes...

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Finished cutting the interior and perimeter lines...and done. Oil pan gasket. Took 5 minutes.


Lather, wash, repeat...for the radiator...again, this piece of gasket is the waste piece from inside the oil pan gasket...
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Again, took about 5 minutes.


Inching closer to completion and first start-up. Exciting!
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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby tst » Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:49 pm

yes that is suppose to be flush, in the past someone did not line up the pin and notch causing the pin damage,

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Glen » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:35 pm

Hi,
The pictures look good, looks like you are making progress.

I recommend not hammering directly on a new oil seal, it can dent or bend the seal.
Put a piece of thick enough that it won't bend, clean, flat metal over the seal and hammer on that.

Or use a seal driver, or a socket the size of the OD of the seal works also.

I'm not sure if you got the governor spring put on.
I think put the top on first, then use pliers and twist the bottom end to the side just enough so the end of the spring opens more, and will go on over the metal.
You might need to twist the top end of the spring too, to put it on. :)

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Stanton » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:05 pm

Glen wrote:…I recommend not hammering directly on a new oil seal, it can dent or bend the seal…


I didn’t hammer the oil seal. I did as I described in the caption, I “tap, tap, tapped” it in.

Glen wrote:…I'm not sure if you got the governor spring put on.
I think put the top on first, then use pliers and twist the bottom end to the side just enough so the end of the spring opens more, and will go on over the metal.
You might need to twist the top end of the spring too, to put it on. :)


Didn’t do it that way. I put the spring through both holes while the Governor Speed Change Lever was off the shaft, then put it on the shaft. No stress on twisting the spring that way.
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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Glen » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:30 pm

Hi,
I see.
My advice about the governor spring is for when the governor is assembled.
I didn't know you put the spring on it the way you said.
Yes, looks easier to put it on like you did it, since the governor was apart. :)

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Stanton » Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:51 pm

Got the starter installed.
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Next was replacing the pin in the governor housing.
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Here’s the damaged pin.

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Pilot hole…

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Then larger bit with the hand drill to “feel” the bit poke through at the end.


It’s a 1/4” diameter pin. Don’t know how it got damaged or when.
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1/4” pin measurement.

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New pin cut from a 1/4” steel rod.

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Inward governor parts fit down flush like they should.

Thanks, tst!
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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:54 pm

Stanton wrote:Got the starter installed.

Planning to push rather than pull?

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby tst » Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:07 pm

yes the switch is on backwards

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Glen » Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:57 pm

Hi,
Good repair to the governor pin. :)

Be sure to put the thin insulations in place inside the starter switch, at the sides of the switch.
It can short without the insulations there.


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