New kid needs rebuild kit advice!!

[panicmechanic]

Hi and Happy Holidays to all! Glad to have stumbled into this site and a great Christmas gift it is. I am also a Cub owner .....was my uncles tractor and is ready for a make over! I have rebuilt other tractors using kits or oem parts but not a Cub. Any advice on who makes the best quality kit for these little big tractors would be much appreciated.

[Bigdog]

Welcome aboard panicmechanic. There are many suppliers of good rebuild kits. You might call Jamie at J.P. Tractor Salvage - one of our site supporters. They sell rebuild kits. Case IH should have what you need as well. Anther good source is NAPA. If you are going to have machine work done, consider purchasing the needed parts from the shop that does the work.

[DuxburyFarmall]

Welcome to the greatest forum on the WEb.

Chad

[Clem]

welcome! this is a great website, you will find all kind of tips on how to do just about anything on a cub. I am making it a habit to read all the threads I can on a project before I start it. I learn all kinds of tips and advice. In your case a helpfull tip is to read Lurker Carl carb info as well as many others.

[Rudi]

panicmechanic:

First, to the greatest forum on the internet, and to the Cub Family. You will find that all the folks on this forum are kind, helpful and just full of Cub info and knowledge. They also happen to be the finest folks I have ever met

Merry Chrismas to you and yours as well. So far you have been given good advice. But the best I guess is to actually read the info that follows. Check out the ATIS pages, as well as the HL Chauvin articles as they will be lots of help. Make sure that you look at ordering the three manuals listed below BEFORE you start rebuilding. Also, have a gander at the manuals as well as the parts books that are on the server.

The best place for most of your parts needs or rebuild kits is your local CaseIH Dealer. If you counterperson is worth his/her salt, the parts are easy to find and a high percentage are still available. To make things a lot less frustrating, use the actual part numbers from the TC-37 Series Parts Catalogs when talking to your counter person. If you do not have a local CaseIH Dealer, then check with Bermuda Ken Updike at Carter & Grunewald. Ken is very knowledgeable and is a pretty darn good author of Cub books to boot

You also are a very lucky person. Having a Cub with a very personal relationship included it a real bonus. It puts a special meaning to the restoration as well as the ownership process... many fond memories probably surround your Cub as it is, and many surely will be created as you embark on the restoration process.

Also, check out the Tips and Techniques section... you WILL be glad you did!

Again, welcome, Merry Christmas and I hope you enjoy your Cub

Ok, so here is the spiel :

I would suggest that you read this thread: New Members and Visitors, Please READ Prior to Posting. There are many great links to informative pages such as the ATIS FAQ's 1 and ATIS FAQ's 2, The Best of H.L. Chauvin who has written very interesting articles on troubleshooting common problems with your Cub.


Also, you might want to visit the Cub Manual Server as there is tons of info on servicing, maintaining and re-building your Cub. In addition to this basic information, there are also a number of other useful tools available on the server. There is the Specialty Services page which has contact info for neat stuff like getting your seats recovered, buying quality Decals, Serial Number tags and a host of other neat items. Also there are the Parts Pages - both Used Parts Suppliers and New Parts Suppliers pages with links to quality dealers. I am always looking for YOUR favourite dealers for New and Used Parts to include here. These are intended to complement the businesses who support FarmallCub.com Website.

I would also recommend that you visit Binder Books and purchase the three most important manuals you can own for Maintenance, Repair and Rebuilding your Cub. These are the Owner's Manual, the GSS-1411 Service Manual and the TC-37F Parts Manual. Although they are available on the Cub Manual Server, it is better is you also have your own paper copy. Binder Books is the only Authorized IH Publication Reprint House and they have the best quality manuals available. Most other's are not of the same quality. Just a personal thought here, the I&T Shop Manuals, although helpful in some areas, really are not sufficient for the job. If you wish though, they are good additional reference works.

IF you really want to get the skinny on all things Cub, might I suggest you get a copy of Ken Updike's Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet's . Along with Guy Fay's Letter Series Originality Guide, these are two must have's in anyone's collection.

In addition to the above information, don't forget to check out the various articles that are available to help with your Repair, Restore, Rebuild or just your Maintenance Projects. There are a number of sub pages such as Electrolysis or Rust Zapper's, Maintenance Tips, Jigs and Techniques, Implement and Part Sketches and of course the Paint, Decals & Other Finish Questions which has the Paint Chart and the Paint Committee Decisions links.

I truly hope that you enjoy your Cub and that you will be a frequent contributor to the forum. Again, to the Cub Family

[John *.?-!.* cub owner]

panic, assuming you haven't torn into the cub yet, you will find that unlike most tractors it is not a sleeved engien. If it is very worn it will need bored. In which case my preference is getting the parts through the machine shop that dows block work.

[Buzzard Wing]

Most everything you will need is for a pretty readily available.
Certainly a bonus of owning a Cub.

Is the winter wonderland Michigan?? I was suprised that it looked like more cubs in RI than MI. (I am in Mich for the holidays).

Enjoy your Cub!

[panicmechanic]

Well thanks very much for the warm welcome! Yes, I am from Michigan and we have started off winter early ....pushed snow couple times.... I am pleased to hear that CaseIH may have most or all of what I need. So much is imported and made of who knows what! I intend to continue to work the Cub so it is important to me to have quality part that I know will last. Thanks and keep that great advice coming!!

[Eugene]

Ditto the previous advice. Autoparts stores handle tractor parts. You need to tell the parts person that you have a farm tractor, C60 engine.

Shop around and compare prices before you purchase parts.

Nice thing about a Cub engine is that you don't need an engine stand to work on it. You can easily put it on the work bench.

OH! You will probably need some tools for small engines to work on the Cub. Ridge reamer, ring compressor for automotive engines are to big to fit the Cub's cylinder bore.

Eugene

[Kodiak]

Welcome to the best forum on the net.

[panicmechanic]

Just got off the phone with my local Case/IH dealer and they are telling me that they sell a rebuild kit offered by Tisco and that it is what pretty much everyone uses. Said that no one buys the OEM stuff because of price. Quoted one piston at $120.0!! The whole Tisco kit is available on line for less than $500 but is it good stuff?
I am gonna call JP salvage and also stop by my local NAPA dealer today and see what I find out. The adventure continues......... Thanks again to all.

[Rudi]

panicmechanic:

Before you buy anything, check with Bermuda Ken Updike at Carter & Grunewald. Your local dealer is about right on the CaseIH pistons and such. They are kinda pricely... but some dealers offer really good kits. But again, listen to what John *.?-!.* cub owner said. It makes a lot of sense and is probably cheaper. For a complete engine rebuild you need to talk to your local machine shop as John suggested. That way the parts are warranteed as well as the labour.

Unless of course you are doing it all yourself. In that case then JP Tractor Salvage or TM Tractor Parts or NAPA as BigDog and Eugene mentioned would be the route to go. For head gaskets and stuff like that - use only the CaseIH stuff.. it is at least right. Some gaskets, especially the cork ones, you can make yourself if you wish, or you can check with some of the other suppliers that some of our members use.

If you want a carb kit, CaseIH is the only kit to buy. Check the server for Maintenance Tips, Jigs and Techniques and Lurker Carl's Cub Carb Fixes.

In any case, I would be shopping around a bit to make sure you get the right stock. Also, make sure that there is a guaranteed return policy in case the parts are not correct and that the re-stocking charge is waived if possible......

Let us know how you make out..