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Re: Engine Work

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:12 pm

Eugene wrote:
Dale Finch wrote:Good attitude Eugene!!
Yup. Invest in tractors or other tangible property. Money siting in the bank is worth less and less every day.

That's why you shouldn't let it sit in a bank! I made over 40% on investments last 12 months...I surely wouldn't be letting it sit in a bank with 6% inflation or whatever we had this year!

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Re: Engine Work

Postby Stanton » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:03 pm

Machine shop called back and I need the cylinders bored out .030 over, crank turned down .010 under. New rods, mains, and pistons.

He said he normally buys from Yesterday's Tractors, but asked if there was anyone else I'd rather buy from. So, I'm asking you all, who would you recommend?
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Re: Engine Work

Postby Clemsonfor » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:48 pm

Stanton wrote:Machine shop called back and I need the cylinders bored out .030 over, crank turned down .010 under. New rods, mains, and pistons.

He said he normally buys from Yesterday's Tractors, but asked if there was anyone else I'd rather buy from. So, I'm asking you all, who would you recommend?

I don't have an answer for you, but I would bet that there all from the same place regardless of who is selling them, unless there NOS or good used rods. There can't be several plants making aftermarket C60 Farmall rods.

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby tst » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:02 pm

1st I would be curious why it needs all the rods ? unless they have been damaged, bent from a major kaboom they can be rebushed for the wrist pins, also there are two different types of rods and no you cannot buy new ones, probably have done a 100 of these at least
hate to say it but if your machinist does not know where to buy parts it means he is not familiar with this engine and myself would be taking it else where

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Clemsonfor » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:36 pm

tst wrote:1st I would be curious why it needs all the rods ? unless they have been damaged, bent from a major kaboom they can be rebushed for the wrist pins, also there are two different types of rods and no you cannot buy new ones, probably have done a 100 of these at least
hate to say it but if your machinist does not know where to buy parts it means he is not familiar with this engine and myself would be taking it else where

Said he usually buys from yesterday's tractors. Just asked the owner if he had a preference where if he liked a different place.

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby tst » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:19 pm

I saw that, many of yesterday parts, not all are cheap overseas parts, still would like to know why a machine shop would tell him it needs new rods ? this was a running engine , that alone would make me scared of them, wrist pin bushings can be replaced if worn, , find it hard to believe they are all "bad" and need new ones
many new bearings have no lead in them and little copper mostly aluminum which do not last as long I believe, always try and buy old stock bearings for this reason, new pistons are pretty good as they are CNC made now

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Gary Dotson » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:43 am

I took this to mean new rod & main bearings. Mechanics and machinist often speak that way. As to a parts source, I’d shop around a bit, YT may be as good as any but I can’t say.

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby ricky racer » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:37 am

Call an check with Hamilton Bob.... For my last rebuild I got most of my parts from him.
Also I took it as needing new rod bearings too.
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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby tst » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:08 am

you guys are probably right and I took it the wrong way

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Clemsonfor » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:48 pm

tst wrote:you guys are probably right and I took it the wrong way

I read it the same way as new...needing new rods. I often too will say new rods for rod bearings. But I often try to say rod bearings.

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Stanton » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:27 am

Visited with the machinist yesterday. Just to confirm, need connecting rod bearings, not new rods. Also main crank bearings, pistons/rings. He's giving me a list of parts to order, I'm doing the ordering and installing/reassembly.

Machinist has a '58 Cub. His reason to ask whether I had other parts dealers was to assure me that I was getting a fair price and not being ripped off.
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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Gary Dotson » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:08 am

I too have used engine parts from Hamilton Bob, might be a good source.

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby tst » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:51 am

have used many pistons from Bobs, they have been good

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby tst » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:53 am

watch out for the import gaskets, seen a lot of problems, I would only use fel pro or the victor/mahle brand

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Re: Engine Work - Update

Postby Clemsonfor » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:39 pm

Stanton wrote:Visited with the machinist yesterday. Just to confirm, need connecting rod bearings, not new rods. Also main crank bearings, pistons/rings. He's giving me a list of parts to order, I'm doing the ordering and installing/reassembly.

Machinist has a '58 Cub. His reason to ask whether I had other parts dealers was to assure me that I was getting a fair price and not being ripped off.

If the engine is getting rebuilt, you would put new rod bearings as well as mains in it regardless. Would make no sense to do all this work remove all the old bearings just to install them into a bored block and all the other work.


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