Henderson loader questions

[Matt Kirsch]

A little late to the party I know but I'm betting the rods are nothing more than ordinary "mild steel."

[radioguy41]

You learn something new every day. Today I learned that the shaft the loader frame pivots on is not a single shaft at all but two stub shafts held in place by a large pin thru the tube and shaft at each end (see image below). Unfortunately we worked at it for a couple of hours but can not budge either stub, they are rusted fast. Used a hydraulic press and heated the tube red hot but no budge. So, what to do? Well, something that has come to my attention may have an impact on my decision. With that tube in place between the gas tank and torque tube it seems it interferes with the rockshaft. It does not allow the rockshaft to come fully forward before it hits the tube. The other thing is with the tube going across under the tank like that it is a real bugger trying to get your hand in there to turn on the gas.

Later models of this loader were made differently. There is a piece of channel iron running vertically on each side with a horizontal brace attached across the top of the gas tank. The tube between the tank and torque tube is left out. This allows the rockshaft to have full motion and also easier access to the fuel bowl. My welding shop/machinist friend thinks we can modify this puppy to closely match the later style. I think I'm going to have to massage that idea for a bit before I make a decision.

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My style.

Later style.

[Jim Becker]

. . . With that tube in place between the gas tank and torque tube it seems it interferes with the rockshaft. It does not allow the rockshaft to come fully forward before it hits the tube. . . .

That is a deliberate piece of the design. It allows you to power the loader from the Touch-Control without a hydraulic bypass block.

[radioguy41]

Small update. My friend Mike the welder made a new tube for me (using the original end plates) and I ordered a pair of new 1" pins that fit perfectly. Now I gotta find a tractor to start hanging this stuff on.

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[radioguy41]

Got around to lining up the new pins and drilling the retainer pin holes. Just in case the holes weren't perfectly centered I notched the pins (1 for the left, 2 for the right) and notched the top of the tube on each side accordingly to avoid possibly mixing them up side to side. Works perfectly. Next up is paint but too cold and damp right now.

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[radioguy41]

What is this tang for?

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[Cubfriend]

Could that be where the trip bucket lever mounts?

[Jim Becker]

There is a mechanism on the loader that allows a limited amount of adjustment to the angle the bucket latch holds the bucket. It is controlled by selecting one of three holes in front end of a long part called the leveller (sic) bar. I believe that may be the point where the rear of that bar attaches. However, the part in your picture looks like it might be the left. If so, that isn't it. The leveler is on the right.

[radioguy41]

It's on the off-side or right side when sitting in the seat. The trip mechanism is on the right but I've only ever seen a rope tied to the lever, never a rod or bar. Anybody ever seen one or have a photo of one? A lever attached to that tang would be too far forward for the driver to reach, I think. I wish there was a better manual out there for this loader. The one that's available is lacking in detail.

I just had a thought, is it possible there was a bar from that tang to the rockshaft in order to lock it down and prevent it from moving back and forth and hitting the crossbar that went across under the hood?

[Jim Becker]

I just had a thought, is it possible there was a bar from that tang to the rockshaft in order to lock it down and prevent it from moving back and forth and hitting the crossbar that went across under the hood?

I don't think so. I think the crossbar under the hood was located so the rockshaft would run into it. Running the rockshaft into the bar was the way it was locked so the hydraulics would operate without a bypass block.

The only manuals I have seen are really just parts listings. They have a couple line drawings with item numbers to reference the parts lists. Never seen any written instructions on mounting or operation. Once in a while, there is a note on one of the drawings. I just found one note that may be of interest: "Auxiliary reservoir to be not more than half full when loader is down". It was on a drawing for hydraulic connections on the Super A, C, Super C.

[radioguy41]

Thanks Jim.

[radioguy41]

Making headway, got 3 out of 6 stubs out. I'll flip the frame tomorrow and start on the other 3.

[muleboss]

Here is picture of Henderson loader on tractor. Maybe

if you enlarge it it might show you something

[radioguy41]

Thanks muleboss (wish I could have worked out transportation for that loader ). Jim, is this what you were talking about? It looks like this bar might be fastened to that tang.

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I finally got all 6 shaft stubs removed.

[Jim Becker]

Yes, that is the bar I was talking about. I have no idea why they made it so long. You have to go up to the front to change it anyway.