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PAINT OR POWDER COAT REAR RIMS
I have a restored 1952 Farmall Cub and want to redo the rear rims. I would appreciate any information about: painting or powder coat them, or would new be best.
I just found this site today and really looking forward to getting a lot of information about the Cub. I'm sure there is a lot that I still don't know.
As a new member I wish to say "Hi" to everyone and hopefully your have a great weekend.
Dick W
laptop@americanresource.net
I just found this site today and really looking forward to getting a lot of information about the Cub. I'm sure there is a lot that I still don't know.
As a new member I wish to say "Hi" to everyone and hopefully your have a great weekend.
Dick W
laptop@americanresource.net
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Hi Dick, Welcome to the site. As long as the rims are in good shape I would re-use them. Since you have a restored Cub you want the best looking rim of course. Powder coat will cost more but give a better lasting appearance. I prefer the painted rims. I think it really is a matter of what appearance you want. Keep in mind I am not a painter though.
You have found the best forum to ask this question. Give it a little time and you will get flooded with answers from some of the most knowlegable and friendliest Cub owners you ever met. So check back once in awhile. I'd say in the next hour or two you will have plenty to read on the subject.
Again, Welcome and enjoy your Cub!
You have found the best forum to ask this question. Give it a little time and you will get flooded with answers from some of the most knowlegable and friendliest Cub owners you ever met. So check back once in awhile. I'd say in the next hour or two you will have plenty to read on the subject.
Again, Welcome and enjoy your Cub!
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Hi Dick, and WELCOME to the cub site. A whole bunch of the members are at cubarama this week end. Do a search for powder coat and you should find some pictures of wheels that have been done and turned out real good. Mike
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Dick,
If you don't already have plans and are relatively closeby, you might want to consider attending the Stonethrow Cubfest next weekend. Check the following link for info.
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21123
You won't regret it.
If you don't already have plans and are relatively closeby, you might want to consider attending the Stonethrow Cubfest next weekend. Check the following link for info.
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21123
You won't regret it.
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Dick, Try this
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewto ... powdercoat
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewto ... powdercoat
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Re: PAINT OR POWDER COAT REAR RIMS
Dick:
First, to the greatest forum on the internet, and to the Cub Family. You will find that all the folks on this forum are kind, helpful and just full of Cub info and knowledge. They also happen to be the finest folks I have ever met
You actually have a few choices on how to do up your rear wheel rims. Originally they were galvanized. If by any chance you are kind of lucky.. and are close to a Hot Dip Galvanizing Plant (the ones that make corrugated culverts and stuff) you can actually have your rims re-galvanized. I intend to do all of mine when I get a chance to do it. I want to be able to have a few spares hanging around so I can get the rims done, swap the tires and then get the other rims done. Cheaper by volume.. so... gotta do as many as possible.
There is also the powdercoating avenue.. be similar to what 18 wheelers have done. You can get them in aluminum, brushed aluminum and other colours - although choice of colour will probably impact the cost.
And there is always the Paint avenue. You have choices there as well. You can get Rattle-Can Galvanized, Rattle-Can Aluminum and you can also get it to work with your compressor setup if you have that.
Lots of choices.
The Welcome Wagon is a relatively brief introduction to the information that is currently available on Cub tractors, and answers many of the common questions new members ask right of the bat. Although it is a bit overwhelming , it has been designed to actually be copied to a Word Processor such as Microsoft Word (which preserves the active links), and saved to your desktop for easy reference at a later date or when you have a bit more time to read all the information contained in the links below. Please do so, enjoy and I hope this will be a useful aid in learning more about your New Cub Tractor
Filling out your Profile is a real help. It just needs to be - State,City, County, a lot less than what is available in your local phone book. Knowing where you are will help in members offering to come help, when you are looking for parts - the area that would be useful to you etc., Also our CubFests, Mini-Fests or a simple KaffeeKlatsch/get together over coffee and a doughnut etc., to help each other benefits. Just a thought
Ok, so here is the spiel :
I would suggest that you read this thread: New Members and Visitors, Please READ Prior to Posting. There are many great links to informative pages such as the ATIS FAQ's 1 and ATIS FAQ's 2, The Best of H.L. Chauvin who has written very interesting articles on troubleshooting common problems with your Cub. One of the other projects we have been working on and it will be a continuing effort is the The Cub Book of Knowledge. This the the place to go to get all the quick links to some very good articles written by many members of the forum on solving some of the problems we encounter as we repair, maintain and up-grade our Cubs. Keep looking for this to grow.
Also, you might want to visit the Cub Manual Server as there is tons of info on servicing, maintaining and re-building your Cub. In addition to this basic information, there are also a number of other useful tools available on the server. There is the Specialty Services page which has contact info for neat stuff like getting your seats recovered, buying quality Decals, Serial Number tags and a host of other neat items. Also there are the Parts Pages - both Used Parts Suppliers and New Parts Suppliers pages with links to quality dealers. I am always looking for YOUR favourite dealers for New and Used Parts to include here. These pages are intended to complement our Official FarmallCub.com Website Sponsors:I would also recommend that you visit Binder Books and purchase the three most important manuals you can own for Maintenance, Repair and Rebuilding your Cub. These are the Owner's Manual, the GSS-1411 Service Manual and the TC-37F Parts Manual. Although they are available on the Cub Manual Server, it is better if you also have your own paper copy. Binder Books is the only Authorized IH Publication Reprint House and they have the best quality manuals available. Most other's are not of the same quality. Just a personal thought here, the I&T Shop Manuals, although helpful in some areas, really are not sufficient for the job. If you wish though, they are good additional reference works.
IF you really want to get the skinny on all things Cub, might I suggest you get a copy of Ken Updike's Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet's . While you are at it Original Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet is Ken's latest addition to the series. Along with Guy Fay's Letter Series Originality Guide, these are three must have's in anyone's collection.
In addition to the above information, don't forget to check out the various articles that are available to help with your Repair, Restore, Rebuild or just your Maintenance Projects. There are a number of sub pages such as Electrolysis or Rust Zapper's, Maintenance Tips, Jigs and Techniques, Implement and Part Sketches and of course the Paint, Decals & Other Finish Questions which has the Paint Chart and the Paint Committee Decisions links.
Oh, and while the program still lasts.. you might want to check the Announcement: Navistar Free Gas Cap Offer - On-Line Form thread at the top of the Cub Forum and send away for the new style safety cap before that program runs out as well. The program has been extended and no new definite end-date has been announced at this point. It is an extension only and may end rather quickly depending on available stocks. Please do take advantage of this offer and get the new safety caps
I truly hope that you enjoy your Cub and that you will be a frequent contributor to the forum. Again, to the Cub Family
First, to the greatest forum on the internet, and to the Cub Family. You will find that all the folks on this forum are kind, helpful and just full of Cub info and knowledge. They also happen to be the finest folks I have ever met
Dick W wrote:I have a restored 1952 Farmall Cub and want to redo the rear rims. I would appreciate any information about: painting or powder coat them, or would new be best.
I just found this site today and really looking forward to getting a lot of information about the Cub. I'm sure there is a lot that I still don't know.
As a new member I wish to say "Hi" to everyone and hopefully your have a great weekend.
Dick W
laptop@americanresource.net
You actually have a few choices on how to do up your rear wheel rims. Originally they were galvanized. If by any chance you are kind of lucky.. and are close to a Hot Dip Galvanizing Plant (the ones that make corrugated culverts and stuff) you can actually have your rims re-galvanized. I intend to do all of mine when I get a chance to do it. I want to be able to have a few spares hanging around so I can get the rims done, swap the tires and then get the other rims done. Cheaper by volume.. so... gotta do as many as possible.
There is also the powdercoating avenue.. be similar to what 18 wheelers have done. You can get them in aluminum, brushed aluminum and other colours - although choice of colour will probably impact the cost.
And there is always the Paint avenue. You have choices there as well. You can get Rattle-Can Galvanized, Rattle-Can Aluminum and you can also get it to work with your compressor setup if you have that.
Lots of choices.
The Welcome Wagon is a relatively brief introduction to the information that is currently available on Cub tractors, and answers many of the common questions new members ask right of the bat. Although it is a bit overwhelming , it has been designed to actually be copied to a Word Processor such as Microsoft Word (which preserves the active links), and saved to your desktop for easy reference at a later date or when you have a bit more time to read all the information contained in the links below. Please do so, enjoy and I hope this will be a useful aid in learning more about your New Cub Tractor
Filling out your Profile is a real help. It just needs to be - State,City, County, a lot less than what is available in your local phone book. Knowing where you are will help in members offering to come help, when you are looking for parts - the area that would be useful to you etc., Also our CubFests, Mini-Fests or a simple KaffeeKlatsch/get together over coffee and a doughnut etc., to help each other benefits. Just a thought
Ok, so here is the spiel :
I would suggest that you read this thread: New Members and Visitors, Please READ Prior to Posting. There are many great links to informative pages such as the ATIS FAQ's 1 and ATIS FAQ's 2, The Best of H.L. Chauvin who has written very interesting articles on troubleshooting common problems with your Cub. One of the other projects we have been working on and it will be a continuing effort is the The Cub Book of Knowledge. This the the place to go to get all the quick links to some very good articles written by many members of the forum on solving some of the problems we encounter as we repair, maintain and up-grade our Cubs. Keep looking for this to grow.
Also, you might want to visit the Cub Manual Server as there is tons of info on servicing, maintaining and re-building your Cub. In addition to this basic information, there are also a number of other useful tools available on the server. There is the Specialty Services page which has contact info for neat stuff like getting your seats recovered, buying quality Decals, Serial Number tags and a host of other neat items. Also there are the Parts Pages - both Used Parts Suppliers and New Parts Suppliers pages with links to quality dealers. I am always looking for YOUR favourite dealers for New and Used Parts to include here. These pages are intended to complement our Official FarmallCub.com Website Sponsors:I would also recommend that you visit Binder Books and purchase the three most important manuals you can own for Maintenance, Repair and Rebuilding your Cub. These are the Owner's Manual, the GSS-1411 Service Manual and the TC-37F Parts Manual. Although they are available on the Cub Manual Server, it is better if you also have your own paper copy. Binder Books is the only Authorized IH Publication Reprint House and they have the best quality manuals available. Most other's are not of the same quality. Just a personal thought here, the I&T Shop Manuals, although helpful in some areas, really are not sufficient for the job. If you wish though, they are good additional reference works.
IF you really want to get the skinny on all things Cub, might I suggest you get a copy of Ken Updike's Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet's . While you are at it Original Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet is Ken's latest addition to the series. Along with Guy Fay's Letter Series Originality Guide, these are three must have's in anyone's collection.
In addition to the above information, don't forget to check out the various articles that are available to help with your Repair, Restore, Rebuild or just your Maintenance Projects. There are a number of sub pages such as Electrolysis or Rust Zapper's, Maintenance Tips, Jigs and Techniques, Implement and Part Sketches and of course the Paint, Decals & Other Finish Questions which has the Paint Chart and the Paint Committee Decisions links.
Oh, and while the program still lasts.. you might want to check the Announcement: Navistar Free Gas Cap Offer - On-Line Form thread at the top of the Cub Forum and send away for the new style safety cap before that program runs out as well. The program has been extended and no new definite end-date has been announced at this point. It is an extension only and may end rather quickly depending on available stocks. Please do take advantage of this offer and get the new safety caps
I truly hope that you enjoy your Cub and that you will be a frequent contributor to the forum. Again, to the Cub Family
Confusion breeds Discussion which breeds Knowledge which breeds Confidence which breeds Friendship
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Welcome Dick, or better yet, neighbor . I'm only a short distance from Newnan, like 15 miles or so depending on where you are. Great to have another Georgian on the Forum .
As far as the rims are concerned, whichever appeals to you is the way to go. Either of the 3 methods mentioned are acceptable, so really it is a matter of preference. Again, glad to have you!!!!!!!!!Pete
As far as the rims are concerned, whichever appeals to you is the way to go. Either of the 3 methods mentioned are acceptable, so really it is a matter of preference. Again, glad to have you!!!!!!!!!Pete
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Howdy! Now that you have been welcomed and invited to at least one CubFest, settle in get comfortable. The people here are terrific and extremely knowledgeable. There are also people like me that find that every day they know less and less about more and more.
Having established my credentials, I think powder coat is way cool. Probably as maintenance-free as one is likely to find aside from stainless steel or nickel plated wheels. But as a backyard mechanic type, I prefer old fashioned paint for my Cub. It may not be as tough as powder coating, but I know that I can fix chips, dings, and scrapes myself, and make the repair look like the rest of the undamaged part. I'm not nearly as comfortable trying to repair a ding in a powder coated part.
If you get a line on stainless steel wheels, let me know. That would be really cool! Until then, I'll stick with old technology. It seems to fit with an old tractor. On the other hand, the threads on power steering and disk brakes for the Cub show that there is still life in the old tractor.
I would invite to the Aggieland CubFest, but there isn't one yet. (maybe we can get Texas A&M to host one... that would be COOL!)
Anyway, welcome. Pull up a chair, start reading and asking questions.
Rick (New Technology? Bah!) Dulas
Having established my credentials, I think powder coat is way cool. Probably as maintenance-free as one is likely to find aside from stainless steel or nickel plated wheels. But as a backyard mechanic type, I prefer old fashioned paint for my Cub. It may not be as tough as powder coating, but I know that I can fix chips, dings, and scrapes myself, and make the repair look like the rest of the undamaged part. I'm not nearly as comfortable trying to repair a ding in a powder coated part.
If you get a line on stainless steel wheels, let me know. That would be really cool! Until then, I'll stick with old technology. It seems to fit with an old tractor. On the other hand, the threads on power steering and disk brakes for the Cub show that there is still life in the old tractor.
I would invite to the Aggieland CubFest, but there isn't one yet. (maybe we can get Texas A&M to host one... that would be COOL!)
Anyway, welcome. Pull up a chair, start reading and asking questions.
Rick (New Technology? Bah!) Dulas
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Depends on the condition of the tires... if you are going to replace em (not as easy or cheap as it sounds) then I highly recommend powder coat. They look awesome!
If you the tires are decent you could sandblast the exterior and paint em. I used rustoleum brush on primer and rustoleum aluminum color in a can. Sorta quirky paint, but it looks pretty good.
Originally they were galvanized.
Try a search... lots of tire talk there (here).
Welcome!
If you the tires are decent you could sandblast the exterior and paint em. I used rustoleum brush on primer and rustoleum aluminum color in a can. Sorta quirky paint, but it looks pretty good.
Originally they were galvanized.
Try a search... lots of tire talk there (here).
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It is my understanding that a lot of folks (myself included) think that powder coating is the ultimate paint finish. Powder coating is tough, but there is one problem, it has no filling ability. It will not hide blemishes or pits. On the contrary, it will highlight the blems. So, prepping the rims is vital for a slick finish.
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Dick,
Welcome to the forum As Pete said it's great to have another Georgian on the forum I'm over in N.E. Ga. between Gainesville and I-85 If your schedule permits and as Don suggested please consider coming to My Stonethrow Cubfest this coming weekend. We'll be working on cubs on Friday and in a parade on Saturday morning and back to the shop to see what develops It'll be a blast, good food , good people and a great little tractor
On the rims, It's really your choice, powder coating is very nice and durable but cost a bit more than painting or cold galvanizing spray. You can probably see all 3 this coming weekend and hear all the opinions you want too
Ron
Welcome to the forum As Pete said it's great to have another Georgian on the forum I'm over in N.E. Ga. between Gainesville and I-85 If your schedule permits and as Don suggested please consider coming to My Stonethrow Cubfest this coming weekend. We'll be working on cubs on Friday and in a parade on Saturday morning and back to the shop to see what develops It'll be a blast, good food , good people and a great little tractor
On the rims, It's really your choice, powder coating is very nice and durable but cost a bit more than painting or cold galvanizing spray. You can probably see all 3 this coming weekend and hear all the opinions you want too
Ron
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I washed her and greased her and painted her red
Now she lives happily right here in my shed.
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Dick,
Welcome to the forum.
I had my rims powder coated by R & B Powdercoat in Illinois. They sandblasted them, zinc phosphate, color coat, and then clear coat. They came out real nice. In June of 2006 they charged $25 each for the rim only. Videodoc (John P.) also had his fronts and rear centers done by R & B. John is the one who found out about them and set 'us' up with them.
I can see the pitting through the paint around the valve stem however I have those facing in so it's not real visible.
The only concern I have with the powder coat is getting a color match when, not if, I get a scratch or nick.
The rims on my '57 were originally a gray painted finish, not silver or galvanized. R & B has a real nice silver that I went with.
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After:
Peter
Welcome to the forum.
I had my rims powder coated by R & B Powdercoat in Illinois. They sandblasted them, zinc phosphate, color coat, and then clear coat. They came out real nice. In June of 2006 they charged $25 each for the rim only. Videodoc (John P.) also had his fronts and rear centers done by R & B. John is the one who found out about them and set 'us' up with them.
I can see the pitting through the paint around the valve stem however I have those facing in so it's not real visible.
The only concern I have with the powder coat is getting a color match when, not if, I get a scratch or nick.
The rims on my '57 were originally a gray painted finish, not silver or galvanized. R & B has a real nice silver that I went with.
Before:
After:
Peter
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