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Hydraulic Pump Leaking

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bob in CT
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Leaking

Postby bob in CT » Sat May 14, 2016 7:14 am

If you bore the thickness of the seal there is just a very thin shelf left at the bottom. May as well go the extra few thou and open up the bottom. That way you have some leeway in locating the seal to avoid the groove in the shaft.

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Leaking

Postby inairam » Sat May 14, 2016 7:34 am

Bob, Thanks.

I am going to try to get three machined at once. The machinist at work likes clear instructions. So 0.688 to the bottom
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Leaking

Postby bob in CT » Sat May 14, 2016 7:37 am

inairam wrote:Bob, Thanks.

I am going to try to get three machined at once. The machinist at work likes clear instructions. So 0.688 to the bottom

If that is what SKF (.688) recommends. I would have to look it up on their web site.

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1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Leaking

Postby inairam » Wed May 18, 2016 5:29 pm

When I opened up the pump from the 1949 I found this
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off of the 1949
This was not a leather seal and did leak into the pan and was dirty around the seal

When I opened up the pump from the 1957 I found this
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1957
the o ring. No evidence of leaking

When I opened up the pump from ebay the it looked like the 1949
oldstly.gif
was dirty around the seal may have been leaking in the donar cub

Both the 1949 and ebay had the same warner gear 05-87 seal which crosses to SKF 5068. I found this interesting. It may have been a service bulletin or the warner was the only seal that fit replacing the leather seal

oldannew.gif
wearner and skl


The machinest at work did not like the idea of opening up the oil seal style to be like the leather seal style. So I will end up with 2 different seals in 3 different clubs.

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both new
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Leaking

Postby baldwindiesel » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:32 pm

I cannot find those SKF oil seals (4909 or 5068 ) anywhere ! I have tried NAPA, Case/IH, and Pep Boys and no one can find them. Is there another seal from another brand that would work ?
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Leaking

Postby Bob McCarty » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:40 pm

If you google it, you'll come up with multiple choices.
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