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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby twotone » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:16 am

I just did the roll pin thing last week. I cut the roll pins to length so they wouldn't protrude past the original holes, then just squeezed them in the hole with a pair of pliers. You may have to drill the holes a little smaller than the pin for a good fit. I got lucky and didn't have to drill.
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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby Posco » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:43 pm

Bob McCarty wrote:The cast lever is a little fragile, so I'd be careful about peening it. You can probably end up with a tight enough press fit, or use some JB to hold the roll pin in place. TM Tractor (sponsor at the bottom of the page) has the springs.

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Thanks for the info.

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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby Posco » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:13 pm

Any tricks to removing the governor rockshaft bearing? Will it slide right out or will it need some persuasion?

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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby twotone » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:58 pm

I used a small socket and tapped it out, and put the new one in the same way.
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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby Hengy » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:20 am

Bill Hudson speaks the truth about the roll pin replacement procedure. He did it on Merlin, it sure helped A LOT. No JB weld is needed as long as the roll pin is cut to the correct length. The springs will hold it in place and keep it captive. Also, as was mentioned, only drill the holes just to size for a tight fit.

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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby Posco » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:02 am

Has it been stated here that you can remove the governor...at least theoretically...without taking the entire tractor apart? I'm not seeing that happening. Fat fingers, dark, bolts to close to other bolts. Am I missing something?

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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby twotone » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:15 am

I removed my governor by removing the hood, generator, both belts. You can carefully remove the gov by pulling it out between the fan blades. It's tight, but can be done. edit: pull out the linkage so all that's left is the gov.
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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby Posco » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:16 am

twotone wrote:I used a small socket and tapped it out, and put the new one in the same way.


From the inside out? I'm making progress. The governor throttle lever was almost frozen in place. Freed it, cleaned it, lubed it.
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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby twotone » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:18 am

From the outside in.
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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby Posco » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:21 am

twotone wrote:From the outside in.


Does that go for the seal as well?

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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby twotone » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:32 am

The seal goes in after you install the new needle bearing. The bearing on mine was flush with gov housing on the inside and the seal was flush with the housing on the outside.
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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby Posco » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:38 am

twotone wrote:The seal goes in after you install the new needle bearing. The bearing on mine was flush with gov housing on the inside and the seal was flush with the housing on the outside.


Got ya, I think. The seal comes out, not pushes through to the inside to remove? It's a bear to get out.

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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby Posco » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:46 am

I've got the seal out, now it's the bearing.

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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby twotone » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:26 pm

I just pop the seal out with a screwdriver. It ruins the seal, but that doesn't matter. Now just find a socket the same diameter as the bearing, and drive it into the gov. When installing the new bearing, start from the outside and carefully drive it in until it is flush with the inside of the gov. Then carefully tap the seal in until it is flush with the outside of the gov.
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Re: Governor bumper spring

Postby Posco » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:05 pm

twotone wrote:I just pop the seal out with a screwdriver. It ruins the seal, but that doesn't matter. Now just find a socket the same diameter as the bearing, and drive it into the gov. When installing the new bearing, start from the outside and carefully drive it in until it is flush with the inside of the gov. Then carefully tap the seal in until it is flush with the outside of the gov.


Thanks for your help, Tom, much appreciated. I should notice a considerable improvement once I get the governor back in place. I do have another area of concern though.

When I dismantled the governor as per Gary Boutwell's excellent tutorial, I noticed a small bearing loose in the governor housing. The diagram refers to it as a 'governor thrust ball bearing'. It shows a 'governor sleeve stop ring' which I did not see nor did I notice an indent in the shaft to hold one in position.

Any suggestions?


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