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Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
What have you gotten into? A learning experience at least which is not all bad. My cub needs work on second gear and I do not feel I have the ability and certainly not the tools to work on it. The nearest dealer is 45 miles and I do not have a way to transport but could probably find a way. Same problem for a cubfest. So I have a cub with first, third and reverse. I wish you all the best whatever you choose. Vern
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
Thanks Jim, my memory is getting worn and unreliable, just like the rest of me.Jim Becker wrote:John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:I have never had much dealings with Super A, but wasn't the oil slinger discontinued in later models?
Other way around, it was added during A production and kept through the 140.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
Before I tear the rear off, do I need to brace the front? I did leave the snow plow attached. Any suggestions?
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
Yes! Wedge the front axle. Do a search on it and you will find how to do it.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
Lots of blocking and jack stands on the front axle.
Axle wedges under the steering box helps too.
I thought I took more pics while the tranny was off, will have to look for those.
Axle wedges under the steering box helps too.
I thought I took more pics while the tranny was off, will have to look for those.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
EZ, I have never torn down a tractor rear before. Looking for advice.
When I take off the final drives, do they just slide out?
I am taking my time. I have the fenders, seat and platform off now.
Moving on to removing finals.
When I removed the left fender, the bolt that goes into the PTO housing. Must have been broken and stripped prior to me or I did it.
Don't know how important that bolt is in supporting the rear rockshaft.
The front bolt on the platform brace rounded off on me, so I left it together and took it off as one piece.
Looks like I am creating additional work with stripped and rounded off bolts.
When I take off the final drives, do they just slide out?
I am taking my time. I have the fenders, seat and platform off now.
Moving on to removing finals.
When I removed the left fender, the bolt that goes into the PTO housing. Must have been broken and stripped prior to me or I did it.
Don't know how important that bolt is in supporting the rear rockshaft.
The front bolt on the platform brace rounded off on me, so I left it together and took it off as one piece.
Looks like I am creating additional work with stripped and rounded off bolts.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
Hi Dave,
Glad to hear that you are 'going in'.
From what I can recall, after you remove the bolts holding the finals to the tranny there are some short alignment pins you will encounter. Just pry it apart. The axle will slide right out. That is on the left side. On the right, your axle is longer and goes through the tube that the back of the platform connects to. There should be some pins on this as well to line it up on the tranny side. The finals are quite heavy, so it might be best to use a cherry picker if you have one. If you take the plate off the back of the tranny you can see where the spline shafts go in. I can give you more later.
Glad to hear that you are 'going in'.
From what I can recall, after you remove the bolts holding the finals to the tranny there are some short alignment pins you will encounter. Just pry it apart. The axle will slide right out. That is on the left side. On the right, your axle is longer and goes through the tube that the back of the platform connects to. There should be some pins on this as well to line it up on the tranny side. The finals are quite heavy, so it might be best to use a cherry picker if you have one. If you take the plate off the back of the tranny you can see where the spline shafts go in. I can give you more later.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
Post a few pics of your progress as that will help our memory. Do you have a service manual? It will also explain the process to some degree. It has been my experience that the manuals assume you some knowledge of mechanical work and may omit some basic procedures.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
This post covers my removal of the right final, which is a bit more complex than the left, because of the seat, platform, and axle extension.
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=170&t=64496&hilit=Super+a+final
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=170&t=64496&hilit=Super+a+final
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
Here are a few pages from the manual I used.
Make a mark on the countershaft and bevel pinion to it's position on the main drive bevel to make sure it stays in the same location when you re-assemble.
Also Dale's post is tremendous is showing how to do it.
Awesome Dale.
Make a mark on the countershaft and bevel pinion to it's position on the main drive bevel to make sure it stays in the same location when you re-assemble.
Also Dale's post is tremendous is showing how to do it.
Awesome Dale.
Just Do It !
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
EZ wrote:Here are a few pages from the manual I used.
Make a mark on the countershaft and bevel pinion to it's position on the main drive bevel to make sure it stays in the same location when you re-assemble.
Also Dale's post is tremendous in showing how to do it.
Awesome Dale.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
Thanks EZ, I may get out today to remove right wheel and PTO.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?
Thank for the pictures Dale.
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