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New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973
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New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Bentarrow » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:13 pm

Hello,

I am looking for my first small antique tractor and there is Farmall A in a town about 40 miles from me. Tractordata.com says it's width is 76.3". This is too wide for a Uhaul 5x10 utility trailer with ramp. I'm afraid if I rent a car-hauler that my Honda pickup won't be able to pull the combined weight of trailer and tractor. My truck can pull up to 5000 lbs. BTW.

I contacted UShip4Less.com and they want nearly $800 just to haul it 40 miles.

I question the accuracy of the width dimension in Tractordata.com because it says a Cub is 48" wide. So is a Farmall A really almost 30" wider than a Cub?

It sounds like I'm going to have to rent a full size pickup at one place, and a car hauler at another place just to move the thing 40 miles.
If the A really is almost 77" wide, then does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thank you.

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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:48 pm

If you look at the listing on TractorData for a Super A, basically the same tractor, it gives a width of 56 inches. That is closer to reality. If you can’t find a rental trailer that can handle it, consider hiring someone with a rollback truck to haul it. Has to be cheaper than $800. You could also ask the seller to give you an accurate width measurement.
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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby SamsFarm » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:01 pm

The farmall A has 8 position rear wheels, each position represents 2 inches. 4 inches between both rear wheels!

Most have a adjustable front axle to match!

Best to do as Don says and just ask for a overall width!

Does it run?



You could always drive it home! :)

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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Super A » Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:51 pm

I think the maximum center-to-center tread width on an A is 68". Outside of tire to outside of tire would probably be 77" or so. But, most of these tractors aren't set that wide, and their width is comparable to a Cub. Ask the seller to measure it for you.

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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Barnyard » Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:54 pm

If all else fails, call a towing company with a rollback and see what the would charge.
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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:58 pm

Rear track on that tractor is adjustable from 40" to 68". If you have 9-24 tires, overall width would be 9 inches more, thus a maximum of 77". Rarely will you find one set wider than 48 (+9). If necessary, you could bring the needed tools and reset it to fit the trailer.

Front axle is usually adjustable (an option) and set to a similar width as the rear.

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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Stanton » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:55 am

Bentarrow wrote:Hello,

I am looking for my first small antique tractor and there is Farmall A in a town about 40 miles from me. Tractordata.com says it's width is 76.3". This is too wide for a Uhaul 5x10 utility trailer with ramp. I'm afraid if I rent a car-hauler that my Honda pickup won't be able to pull the combined weight of trailer and tractor. My truck can pull up to 5000 lbs. BTW.

I contacted UShip4Less.com and they want nearly $800 just to haul it 40 miles.

I question the accuracy of the width dimension in Tractordata.com because it says a Cub is 48" wide. So is a Farmall A really almost 30" wider than a Cub?

It sounds like I'm going to have to rent a full size pickup at one place, and a car hauler at another place just to move the thing 40 miles.
If the A really is almost 77" wide, then does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thank you.


By the way, welcome to the forum.
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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Bentarrow » Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:27 pm

My thanks to all who have welcomed me as well as answered my question.. I just returned from a 3 day trip and contacted the seller. She said I would have to wait until her brother returned around the middle of next week to see the tractor in person. :( The photo shows the wheels close together with no axle shaft showing, so I'm pretty sure the width is at the minimum. Wish Tractordata.com had stated a min. to max. width range.

Another question. Tractordata says it weighs 2400 lbs. I have read that rear wheelweights are 150 lbs.each. I know from a side photo that this tractor has at least 1 pair and maybe 2 pair of rear weights. So am I safe to assume the tractor weighs at leat 2700 lbs.and possibly as much as 3000 lbs?

No way am I driving the tractor down the Highway of Death as I have nicknamed Highway 136. I have lost 2 generation 1 Honda Ridgelines on this highway due to people pulling out in front of me (and Ridgeline #2 kept me from being killed in a near head-on collision on this highway about 4 years ago). I'm going to investigate the car hauler at the local Ace Hardware and if I can verify it is less than 2000 lbs, then I may just give my 2nd Gen Ridgeline a real test to see if it can pull 5000 lbs. I wish the local Uhaul dealer had a 6 x 12 utility trailer with ramp that I could look at. Uhaul website says with my Honda Ridgeline I can put 2710 lbs in this trailer. I suppose a 300 lb overload would be OK for only 40 miles. However I guess the chains and boomers might add another 200 lbs.

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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:08 am

Explore the cost of having someone haul it on a rollback. No sense risking a third Ridgeline accident with a marginal towing setup.
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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby SamsFarm » Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:59 am

Bentarrow wrote:
I contacted UShip4Less.com and they want nearly $800 just to haul it 40 miles.


That seems super crazy!

$800 is a nice down payment on trailer that you would own!

Definately compare prices between renting a trailer and having it hauled by someone with a roll back truck.

I sold a Farmall BN in February, and the buyer found someone with a roll back to haul it for him for 100 bucks.

The more popular towing company in the area wanted $200!

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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:25 am

Tractordata is a pretty good general reference. But don't take all the details there as 100% accurate. I doubt that the tractor you are describing is over 2,400 pounds, even with a set of wheel weights. Based on your ZIP cade, I don't think you should run into a lot of steep grades within 40 miles. With the load properly balanced, I wouldn't expect to have any problem with a 5,000 pound towing capacity. Of course, just because I wouldn't expect a problem, doesn't mean somebody else shouldn't. You have to know your and your equipment's limitations.

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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby SONNY » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:42 am

A and SA dont have axle shafts sticking out, --- they are just stubs with the hubs bolted directly on them. One wheel center is thicker than the other in case you hadnt noticed.
Is the rental trailer single axle? My cubs fit on my little 6 x 10 TSC trailer but I wouldnt stick an A or SA on it! Tandem axle would be best.
I could go measure mine for width.
As for sliding the front axle tubes in------- have a torch, 16 pound sledge hammer and a LOT of time! I got lucky in that mine were already set narrow enough and I didnt have to mess with them! Cubs are a bear as is 340's ---- been down that road before! lol!

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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:01 am

No need to move axles with a rollback. :D
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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby ajhbike » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:24 pm

Flipping the wheels wouldn't solve it?

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Re: New to this forum - is a Farmall A really 77" wide

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:04 pm

SamsFarm wrote:The farmall A has 8 position rear wheels, each position represents 2 inches. 4 inches between both rear wheels!

Most have a adjustable front axle to match!

Best to do as Don says and just ask for a overall width!

Does it run?



You could always drive it home! :)

40 miles @ 10mph is a 4 hour trip

Get the width as it sits particularly at the front front tires. The rear tires can easily be adjusted narrower on site but as stated the front can be adjusted narrower but in the real world if its been set in the same position for decades it can be a bear to get them to loosen and move. Its a task best done at home not at someone else's place. Cross your fingers the front is narrow enough to to fit as it sits.
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